Monday, August 3, 2015

Wikipedia and Most Holy Trinity,Florida sedevacantist seminary make the same error

Fr. Cekada Teaching ClassWikipedia and the sedevacantist faculty at the Most Holy Trinity Seminary,Florida USA 1 make the same error. They assume the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood(BOB)  are explicit, seen in the flesh.Then they assume that these 'objective cases' are exceptions in the present times, to all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church for salvation.For them BOD and BOB contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
 They criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney for not accepting BOD and BOB as being exceptions to all needing to convert into the Catholic Church.So they do not hold the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENS but a 1949 variation, which comes from the Letter of the Holy Office during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.
On the Internet page of the Most Holy Trinity seminary there are theological reasons given for their sedevacantism.The doctrinal basis for their sedevacantism is Vatican Council II. The seminary faculty is Bishop Donald Sanborn, Fr.Anthony Cekada, Fr. Joseph Selway, Fr. Nicolas Désposito and  Rev. Julian Larrabee.

Sermons by Fr. SelwaySermons by Fr. DespositoSermons by Fr. DespositoSermons by Fr. DespositoSermons by Fr. SelwayThey reject Vatican Council II since LG 16, LG 8, NA 2, UR 3 etc would refer to objective cases in 2015 which  would be exceptions to EENS.So they conclude that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors etc).
This is also the conclusion of Wikipedia ( See Fr.Leonard Feeney, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Feeneyism)  and the liberal left.
 The seminary faculty do not realize, like the Wikipedia correspondents, that BOD and BOB can be interpreted  as being explicit or implicit, visible or invisible, theoretical or seen in the flesh.It is irrational to consider BOD and BOB cases as being visible and seen on earth, when they would really be in Heaven and known only to God.
So without this irrationality there would be no doctrinal basis for the seminary's sedevacantism.Now their theology is based on an objective error .It is based on being able to see the dead-saved and assuming that these visible-dead cases are in Heaven without ' faith and baptism'.
-Lionel Andrades


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http://www.traditionalmass.org/seminary/


Wikipedia implies that the baptism of desire and blood are explicit so are exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/wikipedia-implies-that-baptism-of.html



How should we interpret Vatican Council II ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/how-should-we-interpret-vatican-council.html

If Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS where is the doctrinal basis for Bishop Sanborn and Fr.Anthony Cekada's sedevacantism?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/if-vatican-council-ii-does-not.html

  1. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, Dietrich Von Hildebrand and other traditionalists allowed the Church to continue on a wrong theological way

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