Wednesday, August 12, 2015

Baltimore Catechism made an empirical mistake : there can only be one known baptism for us human beings

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Baltimore Catechism 1885:

Q. 644. How many kinds of Baptism are there?
A. There are three kinds of Baptism: 1.Baptism of water, of desire, and of blood.
Lionel:
There is only one known baptism it is the baptism of water. It can be repeated it can be administered, it can be seen.
We cannot physically see or know the baptism of desire or blood.So we would not know of any case.
Who in 1885 in Baltimore could see or know the baptism of desire and blood without the baptism of water? No one.
So this is speculation here. It is a mistake.
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Q. 650. What is Baptism of desire?
A. Baptism of desire is an ardent wish to receive Baptism, and to do all that God has ordained for our salvation.
Lionel:
Unknown case. Speculation.Why call it baptism when the case cannot be known.This seems at attempt in 1885 to do away with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
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Q. 651. What is Baptism of blood?
A. Baptism of blood is the shedding of one's blood for the faith of Christ.
Lionel:
This is called martyrdom. Why call it a baptism? 
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Q. 652. What is the baptism of blood most commonly called?
A. The baptism of blood is most commonly called martyrdom, and those who receive it are called martyrs. It is the death one patiently suffers from the enemies of our religion, rather than give up Catholic faith or virtue. We must not seek martyrdom, though we must endure it when it comes.
Lionel:
Here there is an attempt to name martrydom as the baptism of blood.They succeeded.


Q. 653. Is Baptism of desire or of blood sufficient to produce the effects of Baptism of water?
A. Baptism of desire or of blood is sufficient to produce the effects of the Baptism of water, if it is impossible to receive the Baptism of water.

Lionel:
Speculative.Hypothetical.It must not be inferred that these cases are known to us and so are exceptions to EENS. They are not explicit for us human beings.



Q. 654. How do we know that the baptism of desire or of blood will save us when it is impossible to receive the baptism of water?
A. We know that baptism of desire or of blood will save us when it is impossible to receive the baptism of water, from Holy Scripture, which teaches that love of God and perfect contrition can secure the remission of sins ; and also that Our Lord promises salvation to those who lay down their life for His sake or for His teaching.
Lionel:
We do not know of any case of the baptism of desire or blood in real life. They are not objective.When they occur they would only be known to God.
So it cannot be inferred that the baptism of desire and blood will exclude the baptism of water. There is no known exception for us human beings.
-Lionel Andrades

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