Sunday, June 7, 2015

...just like Michael Voris

The priest I was talking with yesterday reminded me of Michael Voris. Michael will say all need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.He said this often.But when he comes to theology he will say 1) not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church. He said this recently on a video.2) Or all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Catholic Church implying there are exceptions. There are persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.3) Or God is not limited to the Sacraments (CCC 1257). 
Michael Voris and this priest with whom I spoke to yesterday Saturday, first Saturday of the month, were using Marchetti's theology (1949).Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger instead of identifying  and correcting the error of Marchetti, consolidated  it in the Catechism in 846,1257( see points 1,2 and 3 above).
Dominus Iesus and Redemptoris Missio avoid directly affirming the Feeneyite version of the dogma.
So the official position in the Church is that the dogma is still accepted but with Marchetti's irrational thinking.
This is double speak. It is a falsehood.
Yet every priest in Rome has to mouth this new ecclesiology (understanding of Church) , to remain incardinated. The contemporary magisterium has compromised with the political Left.
 So one can no more proclaim the Good News, since every one does not need to be a formal member of the Catholic Church any more, according to Marchetti's visible-dead exceptions theory.
So when someone says outside the Church there is no salvation it is often meaningless since he is no longer speaking in the traditional sense. This is understood by the Vatican  and the Vicariate in Rome. This is the 'new revelation' in the Catholic Church.
All the priests, bishops and cardinals, who presently oppose the changes likely to be brought about in the October Synod, have to also accept this irrationality  to remain incardinated. This was a condition of the political Left , which even Cardinal Ratzinger accepted.
Summorum Pontificum  for the traditionalist, yes!- but with the new ecclesiology, the new revelation.It was always like this.
This is the new Church which Conciglia of the Holy Trinity, who met Pope Benedict XVI recently, could be referring to.
Recently even Fr.John Zuhlsdorf wrote on extra ecclesiam nulla salus in which he considered  being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire , as being exceptions to the dogma. This is now a break and butter issue. He has to protect his incardination and also his blog.So he accepts the new revelation, as does Michael Voris and the priest with whom I spoke to yesterday.
- Lionel Andrades

Accept the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in isolation and not linked to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/accept-baptism-of-desire-and-being.html



Vatican/Vicariate is not allowing priests in Rome to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism : incardìnation prohibition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/vaticanvicariate-is-not-allowing.html



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