Cardinal Vallini and the Auxiliary bishops of Rome agree with me that the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since they do not know of any exceptions. Those who are saved in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire are not physically visible and personally known to them.
There has been no denial from the Vicariate in Rome to the following blog post which I e-mailed the Vicariate and also officials at the Vatican Press Office and Ecclesia Dei.
March 30, 2015
CATHOLIC CHURCH AFFIRMS STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS : Cardinal Vallini and Auxiliary bishops of Rome
They agree we cannot meet someone in Rome who will be saved without 'faith and baptism'.There is no such case today. There cannot be any such case in the future and they personally do not know of any such case in the past who will be an exception today to all needing to formally enter the Church for salvation.
They agree 'The Catholic Church's ecclesiology is still exclusivist.Since there cannot be exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The references to invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and LG 8,NA 2,UR 3 etc, all examples of persons saved but invisible on earth, are possibilities but not exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma, the Feeneyite version.'
They agree that salvation in Heaven is not visible, known, explicit in the present times. This is common knowledge.
They acknowledge that the Italian Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani made an objective mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.He assumed there were physically visible exceptions.
There has been no correction or clarification from Ecclesia Dei too, to whom the report has been sent.
The report said Cardinal Vallini and the Vicariate's view would also be supported by Archbishop Guido Pozzo at Ecclesia Dei. Now there would not be doctrinal differences with the SSPX, since Vatican Council II ( without the irrationality) is pro-SSPX and pro- Tradition on other religions and ecumenism.
Doctrinally the Society of St.Pius X, the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the sedevacantists Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI- Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae ) can hold their traditional position on non-Catholics needing to formally convert for salvation and an ecumenism of return and also accept Vatican Council II (without the irrational premise of being physically able to see persons in Heaven).
The Cardinal Vicar of Rome and his Auxiliary bishops cannot physically know any exceptions to the centuries-old interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.This can be confirmed, by journalists, calling up the Rome Vicariate.
This agreement of the Vicariate and Ecclesia Dei, is important for the CDF-SSPX doctrinal talks.It means there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the SSPX 2012 General Chapter Statement(GCS), a doctrinal statement, which affirmed extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no exceptions. Doctrinally, the CDF cannot cite any references in Vatican Council II to reject the GCS on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades
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