The Council of Trent, Mystici Corporis no where says that these cases are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : Rome made a mistake in 1949

Well I have your answer now in one word and will expand on that one word for that word is SYLLABUS.

- Father(FSSP priest) said that we need a Syllabus of Errors on Vatican Council II
- Throughout the centuries the Syllabus has been used to clarify, correct, modify and most importantly to condemn errors in words and/or thinking that were prevalent during that time in history.
-There are no known exceptions before or after 1949 nor will there  ever be exceptions. The Letter of the Holy Office of 1949 does not say that there are known exceptions. Now what they were THINKING is quite a different story.

Lionel:

The Letter implied it.

 

Finally, it is in no wise to be tolerated that certain Catholics shall claim for themselves the right to publish a periodical, for the purpose of spreading theological doctrines, without the permission of competent Church authority, called the "" which is prescribed by the sacred canons.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

-Lionel:

Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center was saying there are no exceptions.The new theological doctrine in 1949 said there are exceptions.So the St.Benedict Center and Fr.Leonard Feeney were criticized.

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Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith.- Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

So Rome has spoken. There are exceptions. Those who are in invincible ignorance or die with an unconscious desire for the baptism of water are exceptions to all needing the baptism of water and Catholic Faith for salvation. Rome had spoken in 1949.

So the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were also mentioned in Vatican Council II.

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From these declarations which pertain to doctrine.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

So the doctrine from Rome in 1949 was saying that there were exceptions and the St.Benedict Center was still holding to the traditional theology which said there are no exceptions.

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From what has been said it is evident that those things which are proposed in the periodical , fascicle 3, as the genuine teaching of the Catholic Church are far from being such and are very harmful both to those within the Church and those without.

Lionel:

It is harmful to say there are no exceptions! The popes and saints were earlier teaching something harmful!

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The Council of Trent declares (Session VI, chap. 8): "Faith is the beginning of man's salvation, the foundation and root of all justification, without which it is impossible to please God and attain to the fellowship of His children" (Denzinger, n. 801).

Lionel:

By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

Canon IV-If any one saith, that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary unto salvation, but superfluous; and that, without them, or without the desire thereof, men obtain of God, through faith alone, the grace of justification;-though all (the sacraments) are not indeed necessary for every individual; let him be anathema."- Council of Trent

The Council of Trent only referred to the baptism of desire. It did not say that these cases were known and visible to us. So it did not say that they were defacto exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in the present times.Since if they are not known to us in personal cases they cannot be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water in the present times for salvation.

Also no where in the Council of Trent is it said that these cases are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

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These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire.- Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

Mystici Corporis does not state that those who are united only by desire are personally known to us and so are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It only mentions these cases are possibilities. It does not state also that these possibilities could not also receive the baptism of water.

This sadly has all been inferred by Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani.

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However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.- Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

And for him these cases are personally known to become an exception to the dogma.Otherwise why mention it?

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These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

How can you distinguish those who are united to the Church only by desire? These persons are not on earth.

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The same in its own degree must be asserted of the Church, in as far as she is the general help to salvation. Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.. - Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel
Not required to be incorporated into the Church actually as a member? This was the teaching of the dogma. So it all has been changed.Non Catholics are not always required to be incorporated into the Church, since in 1949 they knew of some exceptions. These cases were explicit for them?

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However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God. - Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

Need not always be explicit ? When can implicit desire be explicit for us? Was implicit desire explict in 1949? Yes it was! This is inferred by Rome.

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- no one at the time before or after the letter of 1949 named a particular person or persons that were known to be already saved outside the visible Catholic Church

Lionel:

They did not name any one. However they inferred there were known cases.They inferred that there were exceptions.___________________________________

-The letter of 1949 was followed by 20 strong years of faithful catechesis. HMMMMM

Lionel:

Catechesis with error.

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- The SPPX will not reconcile without a Syllabus of Errors on Vatican Council II.
-The Nicene and Apostles Creed profess and state that we believe that there is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church and the absolute necessity of Baptism by water If .Fr.Anthony Cekada and Fr.Francois Laisney of the SSPX said that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma according to Church documents of the past they are wrong. Please cite me their exact quotes. 

Lionel:

They inferred it. For them the baptism of desire for example was an exception to the dogma.

It can be confirmed in the book Is Feeneyism Catholic by Fr.Francois Laisney which is published by the SSPX USA ( Angelus Press).The error is also there on the SSPX USA website. See Feeneyism.

Fr.Anthony Cekada had written an article which was available online a few years back. He said the Feeneyites were in mortal sin for rejecting the baptism of desire etc.He meant the baptism of desire was an exception to the dogma. So he inferred, whether he knew it or not, that these cases were known to be exceptions.

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No nowhere does Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make an objective mistake when he assumed there were exceptions to the traditional interpretation. 

Lionel:

Please refer to the examples above.

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That is just wrong and do not say that is what thought for you can only conclude that which he wrote in the letter. Besides it what you say is true there would have been a correction very quickly
-Sorry but no you may not use or quote directly any priest or name them for I will not have it on my conscience that a good and holy priest was removed from the priesthood for telling the truth because of my efforts. I already know personally two very holy priests who are on sabbatical order for teaching the truth.

-Lionel Andrades