Thursday, March 26, 2015

Colloquium on Religious Liberty in Norcia : ignoring the irrational premise and inference

from Rorate Caeili
Colloquium on Religious Liberty in Norcia

We are pleased to share the following announcement of a conference to be held in Norcia,* the birthplace of St. Benedict, later this year. It is being organized by the Dominican theologian, Fr. Thomas Crean OP, who has written on the topic.

The problem of the relation of Dignitatis Humanae to previous tradition is the fundamental problem facing any attempt to read the Second Vatican Council with a hermeneutic of continuity. A solution of this problem would thus be an important step toward combating the hermeneutic of rupture that has caused so much harm to the Church.
Lionel:
Dignitatis Humanae is not the cause of the hermenutic of rupture.
A colloquium on religious liberty, to mark the 50th anniversary of Dignitatis Humanae, is scheduled to take place in Norcia, Italy from October 30th to November 1st. Cardinal Raymund Burke will be in attendance.
Lionel:
Cardinal Raymond Burke interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and conclusion and so Vatican Council II has a hermeneutic of rupture. This is also the interpretation of SSPX ,FSSP and the magisterium. They are not aware of a choice. None of them want to affim Vatican Council II in line with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since it would be considered anti-Semitic, racist or whatever.So they are all churning out the old song on Vatican Council II.Welcome to another conference.
The aim of the colloquium is to clarify the meaning of the most controversial document of Vatican II, and its relation to the perennial teaching and practice of the Church. 
The following speakers have agreed to take part [list subject to final confirmation]
Mr James Bogle (president of the International Una Voce Federation)
Lionel:
 Michael Davis, Romano Amerio, Dietrich von Hildebrand were not aware of the irrational premise : Michael Mat, Chris Ferrara, John Rao, James Bogle, Joseph Shaw agree?
Michael Mat, Chris Ferrara, John Rao and James Bogle again spoke at a conference and did not mention that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without an irrational premise  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/michael-mat-chris-ferrara-john-rao-and.html
Foederatio Internationalis Una Voce official has nothing to say
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/foederatio-internationalis-una-voce.html
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Mr Christopher Ferrara (president of the American Catholic Lawyers Association) 
Lionel:
There being exceptions is the irrational reasoning used to interpret Vatican Council II by John Vennari, Chris Ferrara, John Salza and Louie Verrecchio
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/there-being-exceptions-is-irrational.html

Traditionalists reject Vatican Council II with heresy and accept the Letter of the Holy Office with heresy. They do not see how the two are connected http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/traditionalists-reject-vatican-council.html#links

 
Response to Chris Ferrara on the Creative Minority Report   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/response-to-chris-ferrara-on-creative.html
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Fr Brian Harrison OS (author of Did Vatican II Contradict Traditional Catholic Doctrine?)

Lionel:
 Fr.Brian Harrison is revising for the community of Fr.Leonard Feeney (catholism.org) a 33 page article which suggests there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/frbrian-harrison-is-revising-for.html 
Rorate Caeili like Fr.Brian Harrison is protecting itself : Vatican Council II is traditional on the issue of other religions and ecumenism
Professor Roberto de Mattei (author of The Second Vatican Council: an Unwritten Story)
Lionel:
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Dr John Rao (director of the Roman Forum)
Lionel:


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Papers by Professor Thomas Pink and Dr John Lamont will also be presented, either in person or by proxy.
Lionel: 
 The theologians John Lamont, Thomas Pink  and others are not using this paradigm when discussing Vatican Council II, since like the original professors at Boston College, they could lose their teaching authority, now given to them by bishops,for whom Fr.Leonard Feeney is in heresy.Even the Franciscans of the Immaculate have to accept Vatican Council II using the red hand side column. They make the Gherardini choice
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Traditionalists will still be criticized but their opponents will not be able to use Vatican Council against them http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/traditionalists-will-still-be.html
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NO MATTER HOW YOU INTERPRET DIGNITATIS HUMANAE IF VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IS TRADITIONAL

 
Pope omits doctrine which is the basis for religious liberty
 SSPX - ARCHBISHOP RICHARD CUSHING WAS IN HERESY AND NOT FR.LEONARD FEENEY  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/sspx-archbishop-richard-cushing-was-in.html
THE BOSTON HERESY OF THE ARCHBISHOP INFLUENCED VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/the-boston-heresy-of-archbishop-of.html
-Lionel Andrades


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