Monday, February 16, 2015

Without the Marchetti inference Vatican Council II does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors.

traditional-catholic-pius-ix -2The 150th Anniversary of the Syllabus of Errors - Special Edition
By John Vennari
 
Ratzinger affirms elsewhere in the same book, “There can be no return to the Syllabus, which may have marked the first stage in the confrontation with liberalism but cannot be the last stage.”
Lionel:

Yes there can be no return to the Syllabus for those who use the irrational inference of Cardinal Francesco Marchetti to interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II.
Without the Marchetti inference Vatican Council II does not contradict the Syllabus.
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger accepted Marchetti's theories:-
1.There is known salvation outside the Church in 1949.
2.Those saved with the baptism of desire ( implicit desire) or invincible ignorance and die without the baptism of water, are objectively known in 1949.
3.These objectice cases are explicit exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus by Fr.Leonard Feeney in 1949.
4.The dogma has changed or evolved.
All this was accepted by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops.So Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) is a break with the Syllabus of Errors.
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It is always amusing to see Modernist churchmen, who built their careers on the alleged “changeableness” of certain doctrine, solemnly declare that their favorite Modernist tenet cannot change: “There can be no return to the
Syllabus”. In other words, “There can be no change to the countersyllabus”. Ratzinger would not be open to a counter-countersyllabus....
Lionel:
Yes since an irrational inference is the basis of the new theology and the liberals and traditionalists are not aware of it.So there cannot be a return to the Syllabus, with this irrational proposition and conclusion approved by the 1949 Holy Office.
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Stressing the deadly seriousness of the matter, Msgr. Fenton noted in 1960 that a man who took the Oath Against Modernism, and who then promoted Modernism himself, or allowed it to be promoted, “would mark himself not only as a sinner against the Catholic Faith but also as a common perjurer.”
Lionel:
With this error the Nicene Creed 'I believe in one baptism for the forgivess of sin ' has been changed to 'I believe in three or more KNOWN baptisms for the forgivessness of sin'.
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He who takes the Oath Against Modernism swears solemnly before God: “I sincerely hold that the doctrine of Faith was handed down to us from the apostles through the orthodox Fathers in exactly the same meaning and always in the same explanation (
eodem sensu eodemque sententia). Therefore, I entirely reject the heretical misrepresentation that dogmas evolve and change from one meaning to another, different from the one which the Church held previously."
Lionel:
The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has evolved for the SSPX since the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, refer to known cases in the present times and they are known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water. Those who say there are no known exceptions are pejoratively criticized as 'Feeneyities' by the SSPX.So there has been a change and it has been accepted.
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At the end of the Oath, he make this solemn Promise before God Himself: “I promise that I shall keep all these articles faithfully, entirely, and sincerely, and guard them inviolate, in no way deviating from them in teaching or in any way in word or in writing. Thus I promise, this I swear, so help me God, and these holy Gospels of God which I touch with my hand."
There is no way that a person who holds to the counter syllabus of Vatican II can claim to have kept the Faith

Lionel:
If he avoids the Marchetti theology, Vatican Council II does not contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus..
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in the same meaning and in the same explanation” as the Church always held. There is no way that someone who accepts the Council’s new program of ecumenism and religious liberty can claim to have “guarded inviolate”, and “in no way deviated” from the clear teachings of the pre-Vatican II popes regarding religious indifferentism and the Social Kingship of Christ.
Lionel:
Without the Marchetti Inference Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions and ecumenism.

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As already noted, both Cardinal Ratzinger and Yves Congar stated openly, as if it’s something to be proud of, that Vatican II is a counter syllabus – that it says the opposite of key teachings from pre-Vatican II Popes – and thus advance a Modernist tenet.
Lionel:
It is a counter Syllabus with the 1949 irrationality.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/77809c8032706eb06aa84965262b3462-311.html


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