Monday, February 2, 2015

Vatican officials assume that the dead are visible on earth : Vicariate will allow the Traditional Latin Mass for only those who use the Marchetti inference

According to the Comitato dell Immacolata when the relatives of Fr.Stefano Manelli, took Fr.Volpi to court for suggesting that they were involved in some financial wrong doing he denied it.It was good that the issue ended peacefully.
Now we know that Fr.Volpi wants the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II as a rejection of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.While Cardinal Muller would want the lay members of the Manelli family to do the same i.e accept Vatican Council II as a break with the centuries old interpretation of the dogma.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have announced ( via Rorate Caeli) that they accept all the documents of Vatican Council II and they reject the secular media's interpretations.The secular left media in Italy rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors etc.The dogma is also rejected by Cardinal Muller and the two popes.
So how can there be a reconciliation?






The Manelli families must now ask if Cardinal Muller expects them, lay people, to accept Vatican Council II with the Marchetti irrationality.
 
Also does Cardinal Braz de Avez and Fr.Volpi expect the Franciscans of the Immaculate to assume that  persons in Heaven saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known over the centuries? This was Cardinal Francesco Marchetti's original mistake.
1) Why does the Vatican want them to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise?
2) Why do they have to interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus with this irrational premise?
This is not normal. How can the Manellis teach this to their children?
Why must Masonic ideology be imposed on Catholics?
The Manellis are expected by the Vatican to infer that there are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus when we personaly do not know of any such case.
Is it legal for Vatican officials to assume that the dead are visible on earth. Can this be expected from responsible persons?This is not the common reality.
The issue is not  Catholic teaching only, it is not about dogma and doctrines only but if responsible Vatican officials can assume that the dead are visible on earth, and then impose this view on Catholics in general and the Manelli family members, religious and lay.

Ask the Rome Vicariate if they will allow the Traditional Latin Mass to be offered by only those priests who use the Marchetti inference.
Basically they have to tell the Vicariate and the Vatican that they personally do not know of any exception to the dogma and no magisterial document makes this claim before 1949.
It was only after the error of Cardinal Marchetti that the Vatican infers that the dead are visible to be exceptions to extra eccelesiam nulla salus and Tradition.

This issue cannot be discussed by Catholic bloggers and websites (Rorate Caeili, Fr.Z etc) since Jewish Left sources are threathening them with anti-Semitic laws. They consider the dogma anti-Semitic.Italians Corrado Gnerre and Roberto de Mattei are employed by the Legionaries of Christ university in Rome...Even Cardinal Raymond Burke will not comment on this.
Conferences on extra ecclesiam nulla salus world wide are prohibited and now the Franciscans of the Immaculate have to accept Vatican Council II using he Marchetti inference , so that the Council becomes a break with the dogma - and this cannot be discussed!
-Lionel Andrades

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