Thursday, January 15, 2015

Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary since 2012 have not made the link between the dogma and a Feeneyite Vatican Council II

Even the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have not made the link between the dogma and the Council I wrote on this blog on November 10,2012. They still have not made the link.
 
It was first mentioned on this blogpost :
JOHN MARTIGNONI SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS: WHEN WILL THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN CURIA ACKNOWLEDGE IT?
 
I wrote:
 
Even the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have not made the link between the dogma and the Council.

The St.Benedict Centers in Still River,MA and Richmond ,N.H are unable to say even in 2015 that Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.Instead they are using the irrational apologetics of the SSPX and other traditionalists.It is Cushingism to assume that Lumen Gentium 16 (LG 16) refers to an explicit exception to the dogma.Ironic the St.Benedict Centers are using the SSPX apologetics on this issue.
 
It is also in line with their liberal bishops who reject the dogma since it is not compatible with Vatican Council II, for them.This is also the approved policy line set by the Jewish Left for 'good relations'.
So the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary will maintain that they accept there is no salvation outside the Church, as the dogma says,and they will also hold that LG 16,NA 2,UR 3,LG 8 etc are exceptions to the dogma.
So for them Vatican Council II would be a break with the interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney since there are known exceptions.
Can there be an invisible for us baptism of desire, accepted in principle with the baptism of desire ? Invisible for us? They will not consider it.There is no comment from them.
And is this invisible for us baptism of desire, accepted in principle, compatible with the rigorist interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney? No comment as usual.
John Martignoni who has an apologetics program on EWTN says there are no exceptions to the dogma since the baptism of desire etc would not be visible to us to be an exception? There is no comment from the St.Benedict Centers.
Since 2012 there is no comment on this issue.
-Lionel Andrades
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Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martignoni
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Thursday, November 8, 2012
Bro.Thomas Augustine MICM, Fr.Francois Laisney SSPX, Fr.Joseph Pfeiffer SSPX-SO and sedevacantists Michael and Peter Dimond assume that the baptism of desire is relevant to the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus
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JOHN MARTIGNONI SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS: WHEN WILL THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN CURIA ACKNOWLEDGE IT?
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Even the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have not made the link between the dogma and the Council.
 

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