Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Padre Pio TV : If a Catholic woman wanted to marry a Muslim she had to convert and become a Muslim

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Anna Maria Salvemini on PadrePio TV's Fuori tempo  interviewed  a Morroccan Muslim Ahmed Outalbi and asked him about Islam. The program was shown about 20 minutes back.
He said that if a Catholic woman wanted to marry a Muslim she had to convert and become a Muslim.He otherwise thought women were free in Islam.
Anna Maria Salvemini did not tell him that just believing in one God is not enough.
She asked if Muslims believe in Hell, Purgatory and Heaven . He said Hell is a place with fire for Muslims.She agreed with him, that Hell, for Catholics also draws the image of a big fire.
He did not describe the Muslim concept of Heaven.
She did not ask him if he believed all Catholics are going to Hell according to Islam. He could have said yes as do other Muslims.
Neither did she tell him that according  to Vatican Council II and other Church documents all Muslims and other non Catholics are on the way to Hell, unless they convert into the Catholic Church formally i.e with 'faith and baptism' (AG 7).
 
Anna Maria Salvemini is close to the Focolare Movement of Chiara Lubich and does programs on their centre at Luppiano.
The Fololarinis interpret Vatican Council II using the familiar irrational premise which makes Vatican Council II a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors. This was part of Chiara Lubich's religious formation.I once did ask her a question on this subject at their centre in Grottaferrata.
At Luppiano some of the religious and lay persons whom I know, have had this same irrational religious formation.They would be unable to tell Muslims that they are all on the way to Hell with no exceptions, unless they convert into the Church and that this is the official teaching of the Church according to magisterial documents interpreted rationally.
 
They attribute this new teaching of theirs to Vatican Council II but the Council no where says that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and neither do we know any one who is an exception in 2015 to the dogma. We do not know anyone who will be saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) and without the baptism of water.So practically there are no known exceptions to the dogma.
 
If this error is pointed out to them they will refer to the Fr.Leonard Feeney case as if the baptism of desire is known and visible to us in 2015 for it to be an exception to the traditional interpretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.
 
Anna Maria Salvemini did not talk about the Good News or the Great Commission since she does not believe that all need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 

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