Saturday, November 29, 2014

You are in the One,Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church



Where is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church?
 We were told to ask, seek and knock.
You are in the One,Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. You have found it when you are aware that God has chosen salvation to be limited to the Sacraments (CCC 1257) and there are no visiblle cases of persons over the last 100 years or more, saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16), a subsist it church (LG 8), elements of sanctification and truth (LG 8), seeds of the Word etc. Once you have discovered this, you will find that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church do not contradict the Syllabus of Errors, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the necessity of the Social Reign of Jesus Christ over all political and social legislation
-Lionel Andrades

Pope Pius XII allowed the confusion to spread

But the rest of my post still stands. Ask yourself this question: Why do we have a feast day for The Holy Innocents? They were not baptized, and they did not have the intellect to know they were dying for Jesus, nor did they have an opportunity to desire the will of God be done. Yet they were ‘saved.’
Yes a person can be saved with the baptism of desire etc which are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for me. There can be a 100 persons saved this year with the baptism of desire etc and we would not know of them. So the baptism of desire is not an exception to the defined dogma which says all need to be formal members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
For those outside the Church who are in invincible ignorance, God will send an Angel, a missionary, or will Himself inspire them to know what’s necessary for salvation.
Yes and we would not know who this person is? So this case would not be relevant to the traditional dogmatic teaching on salvation?
This is Tradition, Dogma, and Church Teaching throughout the ages.
Lionel:The visible for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance is irrational and was not part of the teaching of the Catholic Church before 1949.
It is unfortunate that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus was not mentioned in the Catechism of the Catholic Church nor supported by the Magisterium after 1949.
Also Pope Pius XII did not affirm it in public during the Fr.Leonard Feeney case in Boston in 1949. This was about the time of the creation of the state of Israel.He could not get himself to say that all Jews in Boston need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell. He let the confusion persist in the Church.
-Lionel Andrades

Letter of the Holy Office 1949 error clearly carried over into Vatican Council II

The magisterium has contradicted itself in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and the error is carried over into Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14 etc).However the Council can still be read as a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
In 2014 we do not know anyone 'made known by the Church's preaching' (AG 7) 1 and who is saved.So AG 7 does not contradict the dogma here.It is a reference to a hypothetical case. One can also assume that this theoretical case was saved also with the baptism of water . Since AG 7 says all need the baptism of water for salvation.Either way it is invisible for us and so not relevant to the dogma. It would have to be visible and known to us for this case to be an explicit exception to all needing the baptism of water in the present times for salvation.If we do not know of an exception then  that 'exception' cannot be an exception.
Similarly we do not know any one in 2014 'though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary,still do not wish to enter into it or persevere'(AG 7), who has been saved or not saved. So this is not a contradiction to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. We do not know any one saved outside the visible limits of the Church i.e without 'faith and baptism'(AG 11).
These confusing statements which mislead many Catholics and is responsible for much of the 'spirit of Vatican Council II ' interpretations originates  from the objective error in 1949 in the Archdiocese of Boston.The Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Jesuits there and the American theologians of that time, wrongly assumed that those who are saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance, or with the necessity of precept and means, were known and visible to us in real life. So they wrongly inferred that these explicit- for- them cases were known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center.
Since the Holy Office 1949 did not correct them and neither did Pope Pius XII announce that all Jews and other non Catholics in Boston, need to convert to be saved,the confusion spread. It was made a part of Vatican Council II. In 1965 the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney was still not lifted.Even Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Michael Davis assumed that the baptism of desire referred to visible for us exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
The Magisterium  in 1949  assumed that the baptism of desire was a valid exception to the dogma.So  in Vatican Council II we have the phrase 'made known by the Church's preaching' as compated to those in invincible ignorance ( who have never had the Gospel preached to them through no fault of their own). Similarly the phrase was inserted 'though aware that God..'as compared to those who were not aware and could be saved.
The Magisterium  assumed that those who are inculpably ignorant of the Gospel were known and visible to us in real life. So for Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits these cases were explicit exceptions to the dogma. In other words there were known people to them who  could be saved without the baptism of water.Cushing and the Jesuits were active at  Vatican Council II and so AG 7 says 'can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith'.3 It was as if they knew these persons names .
They were active at Lumen Gentium 14 too.  Lumen Gentium 14 in its initial paragraph supports the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr. Leonard Feeney, the traditional interpretation.4 It then refers to those ' knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary' 5 as compared to those in ignorance. There is an  orthodox statement which indicates all need to be formal members of the Catholic Church for salvation. 6 It then refers to the baptism of desire as an exception to the orthodox paragraph.
These references to salvation (with the baptism of desire or inculpable ignorance) in LG 14 and AG 7 were inferred to be of cases who are now in Heaven but also visible to the naked eye on earth. This is the irrational theology which has come to us from 1949.
It has been  used by the International Theological Commission in two of its theological papers, Christianity and the World Religions and  The Hope of
Infants who Die  Without being Baptized. Pope Benedict XVI approved the ITC error.He  also made the same mistake as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257. This was theology gone wrong. He states ' God is not limited to the Sacraments'.In other words there is known salvation outside the Church. This known salvation contradicted the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for him. Since the dead were visible also for him, the dogma- text was not placed in the Catechism.
-Lionel Andrades
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him.Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II. 
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops.The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion.
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.

After Eight Years of Infertility, Mom Thanks God for Quadruplets


by Sarah Zagorski
After eight years of infertility, Ashley and Tyson Gardner found out they were pregnant with quadruplets. The Gardner’s are from Pleasant Grove, Utah, and an ultrasound showed that their babies were two sets of twin girls.
According to Dr. Alan Penzias, associate professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School, the odds of having two sets of twins in one pregnancy are about 1 in 70 million.
ashleygardnerCurrently, Ashley’s twins are 25-weeks fetal age and the young mother is on bed-rest. But Ashley isn’t complaining; instead she’s counting her blessings this holiday season. She wrote in an online article on the Herald Extra more about her pregnancy.
She said, “This year being on hospital bed rest as the holidays approach is no easy task. Every day my body gets more sore and tired. But it doesn’t matter anymore. These four beautiful babies we have been blessed with are all that matters.”
She continued, “This year we won’t be Christmas shopping for the best material things we can find, we won’t be opening a bunch of presents soon to be forgotten about or sifting through Black Friday ads. We will be here, in a hospital room, together as family, praying for the safe arrival of our little ones — hoping for another day or week or more in this bed to better ensure their safety.”
Ashley and Tyson have a lot to be thankful for because earlier this year doctors found that one of the sets of twins had twin-to-twin transfusion syndrome. The syndrome causes the blood flow from the shared placenta of the twins to become unbalanced so that one twin does not receiving enough blood and the other receives too much. According to the Daily Herald of Utah Country, the couple flew to Los Angeles to see Dr. Raman H. Chmait, who specializes in correcting the condition. Dr. Chmait is the director of Los Angeles Fetal Therapy within the CHLA-USC Institute for Maternal-Fetal Health.
However, upon arrival doctors found another fatal problem— Ashley’s cervix had opened while on the flight. Thankfully, Dr. Chmait was able to perform a cervical cerclage which sews the cervix shut and fix the blood transfusion problem.
Ashley concluded by thanking God for the safe surgery. She said, “I’m thankful for the tender mercies of our Savior and the small things He does to let us know He is always there. We have never been so scared as we were a few weeks ago while in California getting Twin to Twin Transfusion Syndrome surgery to save our babies’ lives. We were constantly reminded at every minute that we are not alone, and He is watching over us. Thousands of comments and messages came in from all around the world with prayers for our babies. I’m thankful prayers are heard.”
Now the couple is back in Utah awaiting the arrival of their babies. Doctors have said that Ashley needs to make it to 28-weeks to give her daughters the best chance at survival; but she believes their little girls will make it well past that point.