Monday, September 8, 2014

Catholic Truth still in ignorance of simple truths

According to the Newsletter of the Catholic Truth, Scotland, a pro SSPX website:

The UK & Irish Bishops plus the Pope and Prefects of every Vatican Congregation receive this publication. If it contradicts Catholic teaching, we invite the Hierarchy to correct us in accordance with their duty under Canon Law # 823

But why would the U.K and Irish Bishops object ? They would be glad that the editor of Catholic Truth and the SSPX, in their ignorance ,are using an irrational inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

So Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition when the  irrational premise is used. The discerning liberals are not going to inform the Catholic Truth - or anyone.
The ignorance of Catholic Truth is welcome to the Masons and the rest of the Jewish Left. Catholic Truth rejects Vatican Council II  which is traditional without the premise.

The bishops would complain that Catholic Truth rejects Vatican Council II without specifying if they mean with or without the irrational premise.
Catholic Truth says nothing.

There is an article by Jim Paton titled Journey to the Society of St.Pius X in the Newsletter(September). Jim argues that Unitatits Redintigratio 3 it contradicts the need to be baptised with water in the Catholic Church. This is a typical interpretation of Vatican Council II with the premise and Jim Paton is not aware of it.

Those Christians who are saved as such (UR 3) are not alive on earth in 2014. So they cannot be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in the Catholic Church. They are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
They are hypothetical cases. They are not de facto known cases in the present times to replace extra ecclesiam nulla salus.I cannot meet a Protestant saved as such.

For the bishops and priests in England UR 3 is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus, since it is inferred to be visible to us in 2014. Is this not absurd? Is this Catholic truth?
When will Catholic Truth comment on this?

So Jim has to re interpret Vatican Council II (UR 3). UR 3 is not an exception to Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 which he quotes. 
-Lionel Andrades


Muller-Fellay meeting : Clarify that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with an irrational premise or without it

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) must not allow Cardinal Gerhard Muller to later say that the SSPX were informed that they were in schism if they did not accept Vatican Council II.Instead, ask him if he is willing to affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and that then you would give him your answer.
Clarify that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with an irrational premise or without it.
Clarify that you (SSPX) accept Vatican Council II as historical and reject Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrational inference of being able to see the dead who are now saved in Heaven.This is an absured premise being used by the International Theological Commision etc.They allege that these deceased saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance are living exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus,an infallible teaching.So Vatican Council II becomes a break with Tradition.

If the deceased are not visible then there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the infallible teaching. Is Cardinal Muller willing to accept this?
-Lionel Andrades

Society of St. Pius X refutes the accusation of schism recently published by the Pittsburgh diocese

SSPX refutes Pittsburgh diocese schism charge

August 31, 2014

On August 15, the Society of St. Pius X acquired the former St. James church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. A few days later the Pittsburgh Diocese published a notification against the SSPX. Here is our press release in answer to this notification.

Press release: The Society of St. Pius X refutes the accusation of schism recently published by the Pittsburgh diocese

Platte City, Missouri
August 31, 2014

The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) denounces the false accusation and unlawful threat made by the Diocese of Pittsburgh in its notification of August 29, 2014.
The Department for Canonical Services of the Diocese declares that “the Society of Saint Pius X is separated from the Catholic Church.” Ignoring the Church’s Canon Law, the same Department also states that “the Roman Catholic faithful are to know that free and willful participation with this group, including reception of the sacraments implies an act of separation from the Roman Catholic Church.
The SSPX and the Catholics frequenting its sacraments have never proven to be declared schismatic, heretical or excommunicated by the authorities of the Church who alone are competent to deliver such a judgment.
As a religious congregation of the Roman Catholic Church, the SSPX rejects the novelties of the Second Vatican Council which come in contradiction with the previous infallible teaching of the Church ( it is in contradiction, since the SSPX wrongly assumes references to salvation  made in Vatican Council II are of cases physically visible on earth i.e they can see the dead saved with ' ray of the Truth' (etc) and these deceased who are allegedly visible, are exceptions to the infallible teachings.So all do not need to convert with the baptism of water.While,  the baptism, of desire etc refer to known salvation outside the Church. The fault is with the SSPX and the Diocese of Pittsburgh and not Vatican Council II.They are using an irrational inference .) , and it keeps the traditional Roman Mass which has “never been abrogatedas Pope Benedict XVI reminds us, and gives valid sacraments according to the law of the Church.
The SSPX is established in 50 countries in the world. In the United States, 100 priests serve in more than 150 chapels, priories, schools and retreat houses.
The SSPX recently acquired the former St. James Church in Pittsburgh in order to offer the Immemorial Roman Mass every Sunday.

Bishop Fellay must meet Cardinal Muller without an air of doctrinal superiority

Bishop Fellay must go with humility to the meeting with Cardinal Muller admitting that Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake on doctrine.
The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) doctrinal superiority attitude must go since they are making the same error as Cardinal Muller, Archbishop Di Noia and Mons.Pozzo.
Archbishop Lefebvre's Hindu saved in his religion in Tibet, through Jesus and the Church, is a hypothetical probability.It  is an unknown case. So in 2014 every one in the SSPX and the Vatican would agree that this case is not real. It  is not an exception, a substitute or replacement , for all needing the baptism of water for salvation.So every one in 2014 needs to formally convert into the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, Vatican Council II).This is the requirement for members of all religions and atheists, to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
So with Ad Gentes 7 saying all need faith and baptism for salvation and the SSPX bishops admitting that they do not know any exception in 2014, why does  Bishop Bernard Fellay  say Vatican Council II is a contradiction of the Church's traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities?
Why does Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the SSPX,  say NA 2, UR 3 ( which refer to invisible cases on earth) are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? See  this error in his last Communique to Friends and Benefactors.
When will the SSPX pull down all the books they are selling which carries this objective error?
Admit it was a doctrinal error!
Also inform SSPX supporters that we do not know any one in 2014 saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire .Even if  Pope Pius  XII or Pope Francis were to claim that  we can see these cases on earth, for them to be exceptions, to all needing the baptism of water in 2014, it is wrong.
Also if St.Emerentina actually died without the baptism of water (we do not know if she returned to earth to be baptised with water)  it is not an exception in 2014 for all needing the baptism of water to avoid Hell. It is irrelevant to 2014. We  do not know any one in 2014 who is going to be a St. Emerentina. We do not know anyone saved outside the Church or who is going to be saved as such i.e without faith and baptism.
So tell Cardinal Gerhard Muller, Prefect of the Congergation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican  that you affirm Ad Gentes 7 which is in agreement with the Syllabus of Errors , the Catechism of Pope Pius X and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Also tell him, that for you, there are no known exceptions to Ad Gentes. So there is no new ecclesiology or theology in Vatican Council II. Ask Cardinal Muller he if affirms this.
So according to Vatican Council II all non Catholics need Catholic Faith, which include the Sacraments and the moral and faith teachings of the Church. It includes the acceptance of the pope and the traditional interpretation of the Bible.
According to Vatican Council II ( without the visible- dead exceptions), all the members of the Jewish Left, the liberal rabbis , who have taken over the Gregorian Pontifical University in Rome, must convert to avoid Hell. This is a Vatican Council II teaching (AG 7).
The bottom line is this:
1. Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II says all need to convert with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.We know most people are oriented to Hell since they die without  Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.
2.Lumen Gentium 16, Nostra Aetate 2 etc refer to hypothetical probabilities.
3.Cardinal Muller and Bishop Fellay  do not know any one in 2014 who is an exception to Ad Gentes 7.We do  not know any one in 2014 who can be saved without faith and baptism.
End of the matter. Announce this to Cardinal Muller and to SSPX supporters.
If Cardinal Muller insists on the SSPX accepting Vatican Council II with the irrational inference, tell him, in conscience, you reject this interpretation of the Council.All good Catholics must reject it. It is irrational. A lie 1 is used, in the interpretation, as a hypothesis.So the result, the conclusion, is non traditional.This is the only Vatican Council II ( with the lie) that Pope Francis and the Jewish Left understand.
Also call attention to this error on the websites of the Catholic Bishops Conferences in the USA and Britain.Nostra Aetate 2 is said to be a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Where are the cases in 2014 in the USA or England of someone saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2) and without the baptism of water?
Please tell Cardinal Muller that you accept Vatican Council II which is traditional on other religions and Christian communities and ask him if he is willing to do the same.
-Lionel Andrades

On lies

Fischer More College discriminated against by other Catholic universities : forced to tell a lie