Saturday, July 12, 2014

Jem Sullivan(Daily Mass Readings) and the USCCB for political reasons cannot say outside the Church there is no salvation

They have changed the teaching of the Church and are presenting a new doctrine, out of political expedience.
Jem Sullivan on the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) website  1 says evangelize even if you do not know what to say the Holy Spirit will help you.  The USCCB has only permitted her to proclaim Jesus without the necessity of the Catholic Church. This is all the Vatican is permitted to say according to the enemies of the Church.
 
 
 
 
At the personal level when talking to officials of the USCCB she would have to repeat fantasy. She would have to say that the baptism of desire is not invisible for us  but it is explict seen in the flesh.These  visible cases are explicit exceptions to the literal and traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.If she does not tell this lie she would not be allowed to speak again.
This is the lie that the Office for the New Evangelisation has to maintain in Rome.They have to  be in step with the one world religion and  Zionists world goals.

So the USCCB has to repeat the lie about formal membership in the Catholic Church not being necessary for salvation. This is the  USCCB public policy and Jem Sullivan on the video is making a virtue out of a necessity. She is presenting an incomplete  doctrine( Jesus without the Church).She is also implying like the USCCB that this is the teaching of the Catholic Church inspired by the Holy Spirit. In other words the Holy Spirit was wrong before 1949.Or, there is some new Revelation in the Catholic Church. Perhaps it is Vatican Council II's visible in the flesh cases of salvation.(NA 2,AG 11 etc)
The USCCB infers that the baptism of desire etc are physically visible.So they are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma before 1949.They would have to be visible to be  explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They would have to be seen in the flesh to be exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation.This was implied in the USCCB doctrinal Notification on Fr.Peter C.Phan.It said the Church was necessary for salvation for all EXCEPT for those  saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.It was implying that that these cases were not just accepted as implicit cases, possibilities but that they were defacto cases in the present times.

 Sullivan and the USCCB for political reasons cannot say outside the Church there is no salvation. So they have changed the teaching of the Church and are presenting a new doctrine, out of political expedience.


How can the USCCB claim that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?

1. Neither has Jem Sullivan or anyone else at the USCCB   personally  seen  any one saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire in 2014.

2.The  Church does not state/infer in any pre-1949 magisterial document that  implicit desire refers to explicit cases.
3.Neither do these  magisterial documents state that these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
When the Letter of  the Holy office 1949 mentioned implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance with reference to Fr.Leonard Feeney - it was factually wrong.It was not relevant to Fr.Leonard Feeney's  interpretation of the dogma which says sacramental baptism is needed for all with no exceptions.However it is politically useful for the USCCB and the Vatican to claim that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The USCCB and the Vatican have changed the Good News, they have changed the Nicene Creed, they have changed Jesus' teaching in the Bible to prevsent a politically correct non controversial message.
 
Sullivan  should have said (but she did not) evangelize since all non Catholics ( Protestants included) are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).This is the Good News.Jesus died and is Risen to save all people from going to Hell.To receive this salvation all people need to convert into the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).This is the teaching of Vatican Council II (AG 7) , the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846, Dominus Iesus 20 etc.


Instead the USCCB 'evangelizes'with a new doctrine which is heresy.It denies the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and makes this denial with  a fantasy theory; allegedly being able to see the dead-saved on earth!
-Lionel Andrades

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http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid506929354001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAdgye3dk~,p0Zv3iru3vLtuHJC18uO4sBMTKhhmskf&bctid=1663797483001

USCCB video on Daily Mass Readings presents Jesus without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/usccb-video-on-todays-mass-readings.html#links

What we believe according to the USCCB : online heresy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/what-we-believe-according-to-usccb.html#links

Cardinal Errors

Cardinal Walter Kaspar
In the course of the Council the “subsistit in” took the place of the previous “est”.[7] It contains in nuce the whole ecumenical problem.[8] The “est” claimed that the church of Christ Jesus “is” the Catholic Church. This strict identification of the church of Christ Jesus with the Catholic Church had been represented most recently in the encyclicals Mystici corporis (1943) and Humani generis (1950).[9] But even according to Mystici corporis there are people who, although they have not yet been baptised, are subsumed under the Catholic Church because that is their express desire (DS 3921). (Lionel: Cardinal Kaspar is using the right hand column here) Therefore Pius XII had condemned an exclusive interpretation of the axiom “Extra ecclesiam nulla salus” already in 1949.(Lionel: If he did condemn it, it would mean he thought cases of those saved with implicit desire and in invincible ignorance are visible to us and so are visible exceptions to the exclusive interpretation. He would be using the right hand column.)- Cardinal Walter Kaspar, on the website of the Vatican Council for Christian Unity (comments added)
 Cardinal Luiz Ladaria 
 
10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not
belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions
(Lionel: Cardinal Ladaria assumes that 'the possibility of salvatiobn for those who do not belong visibly to the Church' are visible in the flesh. They would have to be visible in the flesh, personally known cases, for them to be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney)
 
Cardinal Marchetti-Selvaggiani
 
From what has been said it is evident that those things which are proposed in the periodical , fascicle 3, as the genuine teaching of the Catholic Church are far from being such and are very harmful both to those
 within the Church and those without.
From these declarations which pertain to doctrine, certain conclusions follow which regard discipline and conduct, and which cannot be unknown to those who vigorously defend the necessity by which all are bound' of belonging to the true Church and of submitting to the authority of the Roman Pontiff and of the Bishops "whom the Holy Ghost has placed . . . to rule the Church" (Acts 20:28).-Letter of the Holy Office 1949
(Lionel : 'Which pertain to doctrine' ! Cardinal Marchetti-Selvaggiani assumes that implicit desire is explicit for us. So 'explicit' baptism of desire is a visible exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as interpreted by Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which he issued also assumes that those saved in invincible ignorance are 'visible in the flesh', explict exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is a fact of life, that we cannot see the dead who are saved and  now  are in Heaven. So these cases are not  relevant to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.)
-Lionel Andrades

Franciscans of the Immaculate being forced to choose the right hand side column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II : conscience issue, injustice being done


Ecclesiastical blackmail?



What we believe according to the USCCB : online heresy

What We Believe


The following text is from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops website under the heading What we believe.
 
"Our profession of faith begins with God, for God is the First and the Last, the beginning and the end of everything. The Credo begins with God the Father, for the Father is the first divine person of the Most Holy Trinity; our Creed begins with the creation of heaven and earth, for creation is the beginning and the foundation of all God's works."
---the Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 198




Catholic belief is succinctly expressed in the profession of faith or credo called the Nicene Creed:

The Nicene Creed

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.(USCCB means : outside of the one, holy, apostolic Church  there is known salvation.For  example those saved in explicit for us baptism of desire do not need Sacramental Baptism.Similarly those persons  visible for us who are saved with  'seeds of the Word'(AG 11) do not need to enter the Church.Other exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus are  those saved in  imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) and  who can be named in 2014  etc) I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins ( I theoretically confess one known baptism for the forgiveness of sin.Defacto, in  reality I mean there are three or more known(physically visible) baptisms.They are  the baptisms of water, desire,blood , saved with a ray of the Truth (NA 2),  seeds of the Word (AG 11) etc.So formal membership in the Catholic Church is not necessary for salvation is what the USCCB believes.The USCCB infers that the baptism of desire etc are physically visible since it is assumed that these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They would have to be physically visible to be exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.This was implied in the doctrinal Notification on Fr.Peter C.Phan.) and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
-Lionel Andrades
July 11, 2014





 

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