Sunday, June 15, 2014

SSPX considers Nostra Aetate an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Catechism of Pope Pius X-this is heresy and irrationality


Bishop Bernard Fellay the Superior General for the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX)  has supposed that Nostra Aetate is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition.In his last Letter to Friends and Benefactors he made a mistake. It's a common msitake of the SSPX. It is there in most of their books-pubished.He is infers that those saved with a 'ray of Truth'(NA 2) is 'an explicit exception'. This is a negation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Catechism of Pope Pius X. He infers  that salvation in Heaven is visible on earth. This is fantasy.It is  irrationality.
 
The Superior General is using the right hand column in the interpretation of  some of the documents of Vatican Council II, including Nostra Aetate.He negates Nostra Aetate 2 with this irrationality. Since he considers Nostra Aetate 2, 'a ray of the Truth 'as visible and so an exception to all needing the baptism of water ,he also negates the Catechism  of Pope Pius XII. 

27 Q. Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church.-Catechism of Pope Pius X 1905,Rome. 
For Bishop Fellay ' a ray of the Truth' refers to an explicit, visible case and so Vatican Council II is saying,for him, that  a person can be saved, and is saved, outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church in 2014.De facto there can be an exception and de facto there is an exception for him.
 
If Bishop Fellay would use the left hand column then NA 2 would not contradict  extra ecclesiam nulla salus nor the Catechism of Pope Pius XII.  Bishop Fellay an the SSPX use the right hand column. This is heresy.
I would not receive the Eucharist from SSPX priests.There doctrinal position here is confusing, irrational and heretical.Heresy is a sin.
None of them will comment on these posts. Neither will they admit that I am correct.
Bishop Fellay is using the irrational inference. He infers that the dead who are saved are visible to us. Then he concludes that these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
It is using or omitting the inference, which decides, if Vatican Council II is traditional or a break with the past.This is the missing link. He is unaware of the missing link, which decides if Vatican Council II is heretical or traditional.

-Lionel Andrades
 
 
 
 
LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN or RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN

All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:

implicit                      or     explicit for us.

hypothetical              or     known in reality.

invisible                     or    visible in the flesh.

dejure ( in principle) or    defacto ( in fact ).

subjective                 or    objective

 So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.

If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2014 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead- saved are visible.

If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.

Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.

So the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance was never ever an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There were and are no known exceptions.
In 2014 the Padre Pio Prayer groups, the Neo Catechumenal Way, Charismatic Renewal, all the religious communities and most of the Diocesan priests, the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX), Archbishop Gerhard Muller, Archbishop Augustine Di Noi, Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, Monsignor Guido Pozzo and the Vatican Council for the Clergy are using the irrational column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church,Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston 1949,Redemptois Missio, Mystici Corporis, Quanta Cura ...-L.A

 
 

The box of mangos - 2

Consider the  priesthood and the formation at traditional and non traditional seminaries.I gave the example of a box of mangoes which has one apple in it.The apple is an exception because it is different but also because it exists in that box.
 That’s the point here. For something to be an exception it has to exist. It must be in our reality.
A photon of light somewhere in space cannot be an exception in that box of mangoes.It has nothing to do with that box.
An apple in another part of the world cannot be an exception in that box.
Similarly a person now in Heaven cannot be an exception to the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church. We cannot say that every one does not need the baptism of water because there is an X,Y or Z saved without the baptism of water and he is now in Heaven. An imaginary person cannot be an exception.
Someone you cannot name, who has allegedly been saved without the baptism of water, cannot be an exception to all needing the baptism of water for salvation. Yet in all seminaries, people now in Heaven are supposed to be exceptions to all needing to convert. How can they be exceptions when they do not exist in our reality?.
This is the simple point I am trying to get across.
-Lionel Andrades

The box of mangos  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/01/the-box-of-mangoes.html