Saturday, May 24, 2014

Catholics Expelled from The Army

Traditionalists do not want to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Another wasted conference in England today.

Traditionalists do not want to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Another wasted conference in England today.
The Vatican Council II which they do not want to discuss ( and quite a few of them know what I am saying) is the one without the false premise.
'The Traditional Mass and Evangelisation' is the theme of another Catholic conference in London.The speakers will not want to talk about Vatican Council II being in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is in agreement when an irrational inference is not used in the interpretation.  They do not want to speak about it.Since like many of the Catholic traditionalists in England they do not in public want to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam  nulla salus. They would like to be considered traditional but without publicly affirming exclusive salvation.
Prof. Thomas Pink
This would bring persecution and they want to avoid it. So they continue talking at these conferences on how Vatican Council II is a break with the past. This also happens to be the politically correct message of the liberals, dissidents, Freemasons etc.
Joseph Shaw the Latin Mass Society Chairman who lectures at Oxford will not answer two simple questions on the Catholic Faith, when asked on his blog. Neither will Prof. Thomas Pink one of the speakers at today's conference mention it.If he is not willing to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus, how can he claim that Vatican Council II is traditional with the irrational premise. A traditional Vatican Council II would not be popular at Kings College England where he is a lecturer.
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So no traditionalist objects when  Gavin D'Costa, a professor of theology at the University of Bristol says that the Church teaches in Vatican Council II not every one needs to be a Catholic to be saved. He is saying on a video shown on the university's website that Catholics can see the dead. He  infers that he also can see the deceased now  saved with ' a ray of the Truth' (NA 2) in 2014. He knows of explict exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus!. So now for him every one does not need to enter the Church for salvation. Without this irrational inference of being able to see the dead-saved, he would have to admit that Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.A matured Catholic adult makes an irrational inference  upon which he build a fantasy theology and no traditional  Catholic conference mentions it.
So he interprets all salvation in Vatican Council II ( seeds of the Word(AG 11) etc with the inference of being able to see on earth objective cases of the deceased who are now in Heaven. With this absurdity Vatican Council II emerges as a break with Tradtion and the Catholic participants at today's conference are not going to correct him. They have their careers to protect.They probably say the same thing at work, as Gavin D'Costa.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider
Nor is  Bishop Athanasius Schneider going to affirm the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. There will be penalties from the Vatican. So he continues talking about a vague Syllabus of Errors needed on Vatican Council II. For him the baptism of desire is probably a visible exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. In  other words the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII made an objective error. It is common knowledge that we human beings in general cannot see the dead.The baptism of desire is a possibility of salvation but not an exception to the dogma. 
They are not going to mention this at the  June 2014 conferences that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One is with the false premise and the other is without it. The Vatican Council II which they know of and discuss every year is the one with the false premise.The Vatican Council II which they do not want to discuss ( and quite a few of them know what I am saying) is the one without the false premise.
If they discuss the one without the false premise ( there being no exceptions) then they will have to support a Vatican Council II which affirms Tradition on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.This could get sticky. If they say there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the centuries old interpretation of the dogma on salvation, what will be the reaction in England ? We have to wait for a non  Catholic, secular journalist to find out this error and then discuss it.
This subject will not be discussed by Catholic traditionalists since the priority could be protecting ones reputation and life style.
Today in London they will repeat the same irrationality, and politically correct statements as those of the conferences of the Roman Forum and the Angelus Press. They will talk about the Traditional Mass without the traditional teaching on salvation.They will discuss Evangelisation without the traditonal dogma on salvation which was the basis for  evangelisation over the centuries.
-Lionel Andrades

May 20, 2014
Bishop Athanasius Schneider and priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass in Engand : two questions

Persecution in the Catholic Church

PERSECUTION ( Franciscans of the Immaculate)
The pretext for the "visit " and then creating a commissioner for the Friars was the presence of a small and aggressive group of " dissidents" , encouraged and nurtured from the outside.-Roberto de Mattei
The Catholic Church will be taken over by the enemies of God from within and this will lead to the greatest apostasy of all time - Maria Divine Mercy
Francscan Friars ask to be dispensed of their vows: Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate being suppressed -Roberto de Mattei
Franciscans of the Immaculate Vatican Council II without the irrational inference is in prefect agreement with Tradition- affirm it!
Franciscans of the Immaculate (FFI) interpret all documents of Vatican Council II with the defacto-dejure, objective-subjective, in fact-in theory distinction
Franciscans of the Immaculate set an example for other religious communities : Vatican Council II without the irrational inference
-Lionel Andrades

Pope kisses the hand of, concelebrates mass with pro-homosexual activist priest

by Hilary White, Rome Correspondent

Fri May 23, 2014 
ROME, May 16, 2014 ( – Pope Francis raised eyebrows earlier this month by concelebrating Mass with and kissing the hand of a leading homosexual activist priest campaigning for changes in the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. On May 6, Francis received the 93 year-old priest who has cofounded the homosexualist activist organization, Agedo Foggia, that is opposed to Catholic Church teaching.
Fr. (Don) Michele de Paolis concelebrated Mass with Pope Francis at the Domus Santa Martha and then presented the pontiff with gifts of a wooden chalice and paten and a copy of his most recent book, “Dear Don Michele - questions to an inconvenient priest”.
In a previous book, Don Michele wrote, “homosexual love is a gift from (God) no less than heterosexual.” He also disparaged the idea of homosexual couples not having sex.
Francis closed the meeting by kissing the priest’s hand, a gesture that the far-left newspaper L'immediato called one “revealing the humility of a great man to another of the same stature.” De Paolis described the unusual papal gesture himself in a post to his Facebook page, saying that he asked Francis for an audience with the priest’s other organization, the Community of Emmaus: “Is that possible?”

He said that the pope replied, “Anything is possible. Talk to Cardinal Maradiaga and he shall prepare everything.”
“And then (unbelievably) he kissed my hand! I hugged him and wept,” de Paolis concluded.
The gesture has made something of a sensation in Italian media and ‘blogs since de Paolis is a well-known figure in Italy as a leading clerical apologist for the homosexualist ideology. He ostensibly met with Francis in his capacity as the founder of Emmaus Community in the southern Italian city of Foggia that assists the poor and those suffering from AIDS.
But it is for his cofounding of Agedo Foggia, an “association of parents, relatives and friends of homosexuals” (Associazione di genitori, parenti e amici di persone omosessuali) – that campaigns to promote the homosexualist and gender ideology in Italian society and the Church – that he is best known in this country.
LifeSiteNews asked Vatican spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi for clarification as to the nature of the encounter but received no reply by press time.
In addition to support from the City of Foggia, Agedo Foggia is funded by and working with the UNAR, the Italian government’s National Antidiscrimination and Racism Office (Ufficio Nazionale Antidiscriminazioni Razziali) that has issued documents threatening journalists with prison if they fail to portray homosexuality in a positive light.
The website of Agedo Lecce carries an extensive quote from one of de Paolis’s books to help readers “get out of the quagmire of biblical precepts”. He wrote, “[W]e must overcome the letter of Scripture. It is the same St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:6 who says, ‘The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.’”
“That this biblical letter,” de Paolis wrote, “killed and continues to kill, unfortunately, at times, not only morally but also physically, is a fact. The Bible ‘is’ not the word of God; the Bible ‘contains’ the word of God.”
“Instead of wasting energy in endless controversy the Church aims to build a Christian spirituality of joyous acceptance of self, gratitude to God in the knowledge that homosexual love is a gift from Him no less than heterosexual. A spirituality in which we dialogue and we compare to all, but obey God alone.”
Church people, he said, “completely ignore the phenomenon of homosexuality, which science has now clarified unequivocally: the homosexual orientation is not chosen freely by the person. The boy or girl will discover that it is an approach deeply rooted in personality, which is an essential aspect of his identity: it is not a disease, it is not a perversion.”
He lamented the “insensitivity” shown to homosexuals by the Catholic Church, saying, “Some church people say, ‘It’s okay to be gay, but they should not have sex, they can not love each other.’ This is the greatest hypocrisy. It’s like saying to a plant that grows, ‘You must not flourish, you must not bear fruit!’ Yes, it is against nature!’”
“We must have patience with our Mother Church,” he continues. “Her attitude towards homosexuals will change.” He praised the “numerous initiatives” that have already been founded throughout Italy in which “groups of homosexual Catholics have occasional contact with the diocese, usually marked by cordiality.”
De Paolis is a prominent member of an Italian clerical subculture on the extreme, Marxist-informed left that sprang up after the Second Vatican Council. One Catholic writer, Giuseppe Nardi, wrote that de Paolis is a promoter of the “anarcho-Catholicism” of the extreme left that has been dominant in the Church in Italy, as well as in the South American Church, since the 1970s.
De Paolis founded Agedo Foggia with the late Gabriele Scalfarotto, the father of the Italian Deputy Ivan Scalfarotto who sponsored the Italian parliament’s “anti-homophobia” bill that has been denounced by family activists as an attempt to shut down any moral criticism of the homosexual lifestyle. Recently pro-family and Catholic activists in Italy sought to secure Pope Francis’s aid in opposing the bill.