Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Diocese of Lancaster is suppressing information about the Catholic Church and misrepresenting Vatican Council II

Is there not ONE priest or Deacon who could cite text from Vatican Council II and prove me wrong ? Is there no one who is willing to dare say that I am correct and RISK his reputation and may be official stay in the diocese ?
There are so many critical reports and the public relations department at Lancaster has nothing to say ?

The Diocese of Lancaster is suppressing information about the Catholic Church.It is also providing wrong information, even after being informed.No one is commenting on these blog posts sent to them.The bishop has also placed restrictions on Deacon Nick Donnelly and has suppressed free discussions about  the Catholic Faith, on Donnelly's Protect the Pope blog.
On the official website, there is a  section titled The Church. Bishop Michael Campbell makes no mention of the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation and the need for all people to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism' (AG 7) to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.This is an omission.
 
Like the Conference of Bishops of England and Wales website he could be assuming that Nostra Aetate 2 refers to known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
There is no reference in Nostra Aetate to known cases saved with 'a ray of that Truth'. That a person can be saved as such is hypothetical. It is a possibility known only to God. Nostra Aetate does not suggest that this is a known reality.So NA 2 does not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities.If this is inferred by Bishop Campbell then it is wrong.The text of Vatican Council II does not make this claim.
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To infer that NA 2 contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is irrational. It implies we can see the dead- saved with 'a ray of that Truth' and these cases are explicit exceptions to Tradition.
I have mentioned this in quite a few blog posts with reference to the Diocese of Lancaster and neither the bishop nor any one else responds.
They are suppressing information on this issue and misrepresenting the Catholic Church and us Catholics.The Diocese of Lancaster is not providing honest information about the Catholic Church and their priorities could be politically motivated.For political reasons they are promoting an obvious falsehood.
There have been so many reports critical of the website statement on other religions and ecumenism, including the work of Deacon Nick Donnelly and the Catholic Truth Society - and the Bishop has nothing to say ?
 
I have been saying that Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So the Council does not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions.The bishop is using a false premise in the interpretation of Nostra Aetate.Vatican Council II appears to contradict the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church with the use of the visible-dead premise.This irrationality is also taught by the priests and Deacons of the diocese.It is approved by Bishop Michael Campbell.
 
Is there not ONE priest or Deacon who could cite text from Vatican Council II and prove me wrong ? Is there no one who is willing to dare say that I am correct and RISK his reputation and may be official stay in the diocese ?
There are so many critical reports and the public relations department has nothing to say ?
 
Usually Feeneyism is a scapegoat.Perhaps the diocese is also ready to use this  propaganda. Does the bishop consider being saved with the baptism of desire as being a known exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney ? Is being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) an explicit exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney ? If it is ,then did the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make an objective mistake, for the Diocese of Lancaster?The Magisterium made a mistake in thinking the baptism of desire was relevant to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
 
If Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong, Nostra Aetate does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.If Fr.Feeney was correct or wrong ,'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) is still not an exception to the traditional teaching on other religions.
The Diocese of Lancaster is providing false information about the Catholic Church by (1) not citing Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation and (2) not mentioning that Nostra Aetate 2 etc do not contradict Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 is not contradicted by CCC 847 and 848 as is suggested in Lancaster.
-Lionel Andrades

Bishop Michael Campbell of Lancaster closes Protect the Pope news service and forum

 Bishop Campbell, the Bishop of Lancaster, has refused Deacon Nick Donnelly's  request to resume news posting on Protect the Pope. Bishop Campbell has also stated that he does not want anyone posting on Protect the Pope on Nick’s behalf.

















According to Mrs.M.Donnelly, Protect the Pope will close as a news service on Sunday 4th May, the Feast of the English Martyrs to allow a short period for readers of Protect the Pope to say goodbye to each other.
-Lionel Andrades


http://protectthepope.com/?p=10373

Bishop Michael Campbell and the Lancaster diocese interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church with an irrationality 



 

 

 

If Lancaster Diocese did not use this irrationality Bishop Michael Campbell would have to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus in accord with the Catechism (1993) and Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/if-lancaster-did-not-use-this.html#links

Bishop Michael Campbell and the Lancaster diocese interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church with an irrationality

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/bishop-michael-campbell-and-lancaster.html#links
 
From Protect the Pope

The SSPX do not deny any doctrine of the Catholic faith – so please name what exactly these ‘heretical preconceptions’ are ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/the-sspx-do-not-deny-any-doctrine-of.html#links

Once again all the comments on 'Lionel Andrades and Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus' are there on the Protect the Pope Blog

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/once-again-all-comments-on-lionel.html#links

From Protect the Pope, 'Lionel Andrades and Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus' : The leaders of the SSPX are not being condemned here

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/from-protect-pope-lionel-andrades-and.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/deacon-nick-donnelllys-ccrs-course.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/vatican-council-ii-in-its-text-is-not.html#links
 
 

Bristol University had a discussion on Vatican Council II using the false premise

There is still no reply from the University of Bristol to these blog posts which I have sent them. The professors designated as 'experts' for the students to consult, are not replying.Neither is there a denial from the Offices of the Chancellor and Vice Chancellor. The professors of theology also will not defend the university.
 
If the video on the websites of the University of Bristol and the Conference of Catholic Bishops of England and Wales did not promote an irrationality and cite alleged text in Vatican Council supporting this irrationality,then Prof.Gavin D'Costa would have to say that the Catholic Church teaches,according to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7), that all the members of  the Bristol University Islamic Society and all the Protestant members of the university's Christian Union are on the way to Hell, unless they convert into the Catholic Church.
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On October 1, 2013: Gavin D’Costa spoke on The Second Vatican Council: A Disputed Question Examined (Chair: Jon Balserak) presumably using the irrational premise. Then on February 25, 2014: Carmody Grey spoke on the subject Towards a Catholic Environmental Ethics, (Chair: Gavin D’Costa).Is it ethical to promote a false premise and lie about the Catholic Faith ?
 
 
1) The video irrationally infers there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the traditonal teaching on all non Catholics needing to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.
It is common knowledge that we humans ( and residents at Bristol) cannot see the dead-saved in Heaven for them to be known exceptions to all needing to enter the Church.The dead who are saved are not visible to us.Prof.Gavin D'Costa and the Bishops of England and Wales cannot name any exception in 2014.However by promoting this false premise of the visible-dead, they are presenting the traditional Catholic teaching on this subject as confusing,vague and mysterious.They are saying all non Catholics need to convert into the Church for salvation (AG 7) and all non Catholics do not need to convert (NA 2 which refers to the visible-dead).
2) In the video Gavin D'Costa indicates Nostra Aetate, Vatican Council II mentions an exception to the traditional teaching on salvation in the Church. There is no such text in Vatican Council. Nostra Aetate 2 refers to the possibility of a non Catholic being saved in his religion.It does not state that this is a defacto, known case.So how can it be an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus? (1)
 
The video on the websites of the University of Bristol and the Conference of Catholic Bishops of England and Wales are presenting Nostra Aetate as referring to an exception to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in the Catholic Church. The video is saying that Nostra Aetate refers to cases that are visible  in our reality.In other words they can meet the dead and personally know them.

There is no mention of Ad Gentes 7 on the video.According to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7),  all the members of the the Bristol University Islamic Society and all the Protestant members of the university's Christian Union are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church.This is also the teaching of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church
-Lionel Andrades