Friday, March 7, 2014

Summorum Pontificum : those who do not use an irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II are called reactionaries

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So Bene­dict XVI issued a motu pro­prio in 2007 for the sake of those attached to the usus antiquior who also accept the author­ity of Vat­i­can II. Sum­mo­rum Pon­tif­i­cum was never meant to prop up Only­ism. Thus Bishop Olson felt that he had to sus­pend the Latin Mass at Fisher More. (1)
 
 'for the sake of those attached to the usus antiquior who also accept the author­ity of Vat­i­can II'. -Summorum Pontificum
 
For those who accept the authority of Vatican Council II with the use of the irrational premise of being able to see the dead-saved who are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
Or, for those who accept the authority of Vatican Council II WITHOUT the use of the irrational premise of being able to see the dead on earth and Heaven who are visible in the flesh exceptions to the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
Chez Ami is using the irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II. Those who do not use this premise are called reactionaries.(2)
 
The writer of the article, quoted above, also assumes that there are explicit, visible exceptions in 2014 mentioned in Vatican Council II, to the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
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Summorum Pontificum does not say if Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with or without the false premise

Feast of the Assumption_05Traditionalists can affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise  and offer the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM).
The Fischer-More College could clarify its doctrinal position as they have done with finances, guest speakers etc. They could answer the following two questions. 

1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2013 ?

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? (1)
 
-Lionel Andrades
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With Answers
They could also clarify their doctrinal postion.Could they answer these two questions '
1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2013 ? Answer: NO. We do not know any such case.


2) Since we do not know any of these cases, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? Answer: There are no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades


http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/2969/bishop_of_fort_worth_draws_the_line.aspx#comment-1271273737

Bishop Michael Olson wants faculty and students to accept a lie ?

Feast of the Assumption_05Would Bishop Michael Olson want Michael Webb, the faculty and students to accept the TLM and the Novus Ordo Mass with a lie ?
 
They will have to attend Holy Mass where the priest believes he can see the dead- saved ( LG 16 etc) who are exceptions to Tradition. This is a lie. He cannot.They will have to attend Holy Mass where the priest believes that Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise contradicts Tradition. The false premise is a lie. They will have to attend Holy Mass where the priest denies the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there is a New Revelation in the Catholic Church come from Vatican Council II.( with the use of the false premise) This is false.They will have to attend Holy Mass where the priest believes that there is a New Revelation in Vatican Council II inspired by God. The Holy Spirit cannot teach error. This is a lie.They will have to attend Holy Mass where the priest believes that Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy since there are known exceptions to his literal interpretation of the dogma. This is false. There are no known exceptions.
-Lionel Andrades