Thursday, March 6, 2014

This is the Mass- does the priest use a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II ?


This is the Mass, yes!-but is it a Mass by a priest who interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise or is it one who does not use this false premise of being able to see the dead who are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The FSSP priests will offer this Mass using the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. The Clouncil will  appear as a break with the past.This is heresy. Since they are denying the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus, which was ex cathedra and they are denying the dogma on the infallibility of the pope ex cathedra.
They are also saying that Vatican Council II which was a pastoral Council is a dogmatic Council. With the use of the false premise Lumen Gentium 16 becomes visible to us in life and so contradicts the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church. So the Council rejects a dogma and the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities, for those priests who make this error.
Rorate Caeili which posts these reports and pictures does not affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise.
-Lionel Andrades

Will the Franciscans of the Immaculate Heart be Integrated into the Decadent Capuchin Order?

(Rome) Should the Franciscans of the Immaculate be dissolved as a separate order and incorporated into the Capuchin Order? This rumor is  making the rounds on the Internet.  Vigiliae Alexandrinae refers to a “reliable source in Germany.”  Accordingly, a plan in preparation should be to integrated should the Franciscans of the Immaculate be forced into the Capuchin Order and thus dissolve the Order Father Stefano Maria Manelli  founded.
The  Congregation of Religious had established, with the approval of Pope Francis,  the  Apostolic Commissar, Father Fidenzio Volpi,  in July of last year. In his first official statement, dated 31 August 2013 Commissioner Volpi wrote:
"One of the central problems is due to the danger of a certain self-centeredness, that is, the desire to underline the unique characteristic peculiarity at all costs. I think it is, however, a certain proof of maturity to overcome such an attitude by recognizing the structure of the Church as the true reference point for their own charismatic experience with a humble and the Franciscan spirit. "
The website Vigiliae Alexandrinae writes: "We entrust the salvation of the Congregation of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate Conception, the use of which has brought great fruits for the restoration of orthodoxy in the Church and aroused worldwide hope among Catholics,   to the prayers of our readers and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. "
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: Traditio Catholica
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.coms

Bishop Michael Olson could be assuming that the TLM rejects the New Revelation in Vatican Council II with the visible dead premise

The issue of Fr.Leonard Feeney has to be clarified with Bishop Michael Olson . Since if he thinks the baptism of desire (implicit desire)  is visible  for us in the present times , then he probably assumes that Fr.Leonard Feeney  was wrong for not accepting the baptism of desire as an exception to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So he would also be implying that Pope Pius XII made an objective mistake. Since Pope Pius XII assumed, for Bishop Olson, that we can see the dead  saved with implicit desire.So these cases are exceptions  to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. If Bishop Olson is making this objective error, then he could be extending it to Vatican Council II.
He could be assuming  Vatican Council II, Lumen Gentium  16 (invincible ignorance) is a known exception in 2014 to the literal interpretation of the dogma by Fr.Leonard Feeney.
So this could be the New Revelation from God in the Catholic Church for Bishop Michael Olson.He has used an irrational premise  ( the dead-saved are physically visible) to discard the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, defined three times by three Church Councils.He also rejects the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.

 Bishop Olson has prohibited the Traditional Latin Mass, at Fischer More College, since he like the Vatican Curia, could believe the TLM does not support this New Revelation which has come to us from Vatican Council II ( with the visible dead premise), allegedly from the Holy Spirit.
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Bishop Olson could be opposed to Michael King, Dr.Dudley and the guest speakers at Fischer-More College who affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus without the New Revelation allegedly from God, but really due to an irrational premise.

The bishop is not opposed to the TLM when the priests, like those with the FSSP, do not reject the New Revelation in Vatican Council II with the visible dead premise and interpret the Council as a break with the past.

The use of the visible dead premise results in heresy. The Nicene Creed is changed to, 'I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sin.

Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism for salvation) is contradicted with visible to us salvation of those in invincible ignorance (LG 16).LG 16 opposes AG 7.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) would say all who are saved  through Jesus and the Church in their religion are known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism) .

This is all the confusion which has come into the Catholic Church with the use of the irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

Without the use of this irrational premise , Bishop Olson would affirm Ad Gentes 7  and extra ecclesiam nulla salus , like the Fischer More College faculty.He would not claim there are known exceptions  to the dogma in Vatican Council II. He would be a 'traditionalist'. Those who offer the Novus Ordo Mass would be traditional.
If a priest or bishop is in public heresy, public mortal sin, St.Alphonsus Ligouri, the father of Moral Theology  says, then,we must not go to receive the Eucharist or the Sacraments from him.(Teologia Moralis Bk 46,N.3).He wrote it would be a sin of charity and religion to do so.Since that priest is going to Hell and you would be acting as if all is well for him.He writes do not go to receive the Sacrements unless it is an emmergency. For example one's Sunday obligation cannot be fulfilled.

So it is important to determine if, in the diocese of Fischer More College, the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorane etc are known exceptions to the credal teaching and to the dogma which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible teaching' (Letter of the Holy Office 1949).
-Lionel Andrades