Thursday, February 6, 2014

Manelli lawyers must clarify with Apostolic Commissioner Fr.Fidenzio Volpi

Fr.Fidenzio Volpi OFM Cap, the Apostolic Commissioner to the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) is forcing the FFI, including the Manelli family, to accept a lie and proclaim a falsehood. 
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The brothers and sisters of Fr.Stefano Manelli FFI, the founder of the community, could ask their lawyer Mariarosaria De Mucci, to clarify if this is true. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding, the error is innocent and there is no ill will or malice.
 
It's based on this falsehood that  the Apostolic  Commissioner , is forcing the Manelli family and the rest of the FFI to  accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
 
The Manelli family, religious and lay persons, associated with the FFI , have to accept the following:
 
1. All salvation (LG 16- saved in invincible ignorance, UR 3- imperfect communion with the Church etc) and condemnation (LG 14- those who know and do not enter the Church)  referred to in Vatican Council II is explicit, known, visible in the flesh and defacto in 2014.This is a lie.
 
2. The dead now in Heaven saved with  invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire etc are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is a lie. It is a fact that the dead are not visible.
 
3.Implicit for us baptism of desire is explicit for us baptism of desire. Invisible for us being saved in imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) is visible for us on earth.This is false and irrational.
 
4.So the FFI have to affirm that Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since they can see the dead-saved. This is a lie.
 
5. They are also forced to make a Profession of Faith with the Nicene Creed. When they say 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' they must mean three or more baptisms. This includes known, visible baptisms of desire and blood and those of imperfect communion with the Church, seeds of the Word (AG 11) etc. This is absurd. This is all irrational and not the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
 
Could the lawyer please ask Fr.Fidenzio Volpi why does the Manelli family have to accept the following:
 
a. All salvation or condemnation referred to in Vatican Council II and known only to God, is also known to them all.
b.That the dead now saved in Heaven are known to the Manellis on earth.
c. Implicit for us baptism of desire is explicit for them.
d. That Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma on exclusive salvation since the Manelli family members and the rest of the FFI can see the dead.
e. Why muist the Nicene Creed for them refer to known baptism of desire etc.
 
This is the irrationality of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) which has been criticized by Fr.Fidenzio Volpi.
 
Please ask Fr.Fidenzio Volpi to clarify if he wants the Manelli family and the FFI to accept all these lies.


 
 
Or is this all a misunderstanding ? Does he mean the following:-
 
I.All salvation (LG 16- saved in invincible ignorance, UR 3- imperfect communion with the Church etc) and condemnation (LG 14- those who know and do not enter the Church) referred to in Vatican Council II is implicit, invisible and hypothetical for us in  2014.
 



II. The dead now in Heaven saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire etc are not known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
III. Implicit for us baptism of desire is always implicit. Invisible for us being saved in imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) is always invisible for us on earth.
IV. Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The dead-saved are not visible to us.
V. When they say 'I believe in one baptism for the forgivess of sin'  they are referring to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.
-Lionel Andrades
 
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 Breaking news # 2: Fr. Volpi admits (again) that Fr. Manelli’s siblings aren’t involved in any embezzlement
CORRECTION FROM APOSTOLIC COMMISSIONER the Father Fidenzio Volpi
Fr, Fidenzio is the second from right
Fr. Fidenzio Volpi’s the one wearing the habit
In response to the requests made by the lawyer, David Perrotta, and with his agreement, pointed out by e-mail yesterday January 30, 2014, to publishing on the institute website “www.immacolata.com,” Father Fidenzio Volpi confirms the absolute extraneousness of the Brothers and Sisters of Father Stefano Maria Manelli from the disputed operations related to the transfer of the availability of chattels and real estate property of the Institute of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate as in Note dated 8 December 2013 and wrongfully disclosed being a confidential note.
As required, here it comes the inclusion of all communications, not yet published, exchanged between the lawyer Mr. David Perrotta and Father Fidenzio Volpi and / or the undersigned, his lawyer.
Rome, January 31, 2014
Fr. Fidenzio Volpi O.F.M. Capp. -Apostolic Commissioner
Mariarosaria De Mucci, Lawyer
http://www.immacolata.com/index.php/it/35-apostolato/fi-news/253-precisazione-del-commissario-apostolico
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