Most of the Catholic religious and lay people participating in the ecumenical gathering at the Basiilica of St.Paul Outside the Walls, Rome today (Jan.25) accept Vatican Council II as a historical reality but reject the Council's teachings on other religions and ecumenism. They claim that the dead in Heaven are visible on earth and so are exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 which says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation. For them Christian communities and churches do not need Catholic Faith (AG 7) for salvation. It is an ecumenism of non return and part of the Jewish Left agenda for a one world religion without Catholic doctrine.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.
Todays ecumenical meeting is a a doctrinal rejection of Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846).
According to Archbishop Muller's standard for the SSPX, those participating in todays ecumenical meeting at which Pope Francis will be present, are in schism. They reject Vatican Council II in reality with an irrational interpretation. Since they interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the past. It is a break with the Nicene Creed, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors. They are supported by the Vatican Curia and are not considered to be in doctrinal error even though they assume that all salvation mentioned in the Council is very visible and explicit for us in 2014.They can see the dead.
Abp.Muller : "But they too must change their attitude, accept the conditions of the Catholic Church, and the Supreme Pontiff as the definitive criterion for membership.”
How can the SSPX be forced to accept an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council which is a new doctrine and part of the new ecumenism. All salvation mentioned in the Council is not visible but invisible for us! This new doctrine is accepted by the liberals from the Catholic Church.It is taught in ecumenism at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas ( Angelicum),Rome and other Pontifical universities here.
It has never been a doctrinal teaching of the Catholic Church that the dead saved in Heaven are visible exceptions to traditional teaching and to Vatican Council II itself.
Archbishop Muller can correct this doctrinal error which is part of a false ecumenism.
He could announce that those saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16), elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8) seeds of the Word(AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) are implicit and invisible for us.They are explicit and visible only for God.
It would mean that Vatican Council II would be traditional on the issue of other religions and Christian communities.
Abp.Muller : “No compromise is possible on the level of the Catholic faith, in particular as it was correctly formulated by the Second Vatican Council."
Vatican Council II no where says that LG 16 (invincible ignorance) is an exception to Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism).The Council does not say that LG 16 is an exception. This is irrationality. It is a faith- compromised.
Abp.Muller : "Vatican II is not in contradiction with the whole of the Church’s tradition; strictly speaking it is opposed to certain erroneous interpretations of the Catholic faith."
When Archbishop Muller mentions Vatican Council II is he referring to LG 16, LG 8, AG 11, NA 2, UR 3 and AG 11 as being implicit or explicit ? Are these cases for him invisible or visible, de jure or defacto, hypothetical or in reality, accepted in theory or known in practise. He does not qualify his terms. For me these are references to implicit, hypothetical cases. For the Catholic religious and lay people today at the Basilica these are references to explicit, visible cases.
Abp.Muller: "We cannot negotiate the Catholic faith."
A Catholic faith in which LG 16 is implicit or explicit? If LG is explicit the Catholic Faith has been negotiated and sold.This is a doctrinal error which needs to be addressed.
The Catholics participating in today's ecumenical meeting must be asked to meet the same standards set for the SSPX. The same measure used for the SSPX must also apply here.