Tuesday, December 16, 2014

Michael Voris assumes that being saved in invincible ignorance is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

It is not that they go to Hell if it is a case of being invincibly ignorant of the faith, if it is truly invincibly ignorant (1:40)...
 (2:50)True someone may not go to Hell because they did not know the faith, it was not properly explained to him.- Michael Voris
The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says all need to be formal members of the Catholic Church. Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.We do not know any one saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water. There is no such case known to Michael Voris .
So being saved in invincible ignorance with or without the baptism of water, has nothing to do with the traditional interpretation of the dogma according to the Church Councils, the popes and saints.
Being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire had nothing to do with the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.It would have been an exception if there were known and visible cases.
 
This was the error made by the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing. They assumed that being saved in invincible ignorance referred to visible and known cases. So they concluded that there were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.
 Michael Voris makes the same Cushingite error.He assumes there are known and visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the present times.Invincible ignorance has nothing to do with the dogma.Hypothetical cases cannot be defacto exceptions to the dogma.
So it is no surprise that Michael Voris finds Vatican Council II ambigous. For him Lumen Gentium 16 ( being saved in invincible ignorance) would be an exception to the dogma.This is also the error made by the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in the dioceses of Manchester and Worcester,USA. LG 16 does not state that these cases are known and visible to us in the present times!.Neither does it claim that invincible ignorance is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is wrongly inferred by so many. They include Michael Voris.
If Church Militant could only make a Christmas Greeting saying give your friends a premium subsciption this Christmas, since outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and all need to formally enter the Church in 2014 to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.We do not know any one who will be saved in invincible ignorance  or the baptism of desire.There are no such cases known over the last 70 years and more.So being saved in invincible ignorance has nothing to do with the traditional teaching on salvation.All in 2014-2015 need to formally enter the Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.So learn more about the Catholic Faith!-Lionel Andrades
 

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