Berto:
HOW the SSPX can cite Bishop Hay nonchalantelly after a whole article bashing “feeneyism” and trying to convince readers BOD BOB II are very real and happening all around us, ergo they are facts.
The two positions are incompatible.
HOW the SSPX can cite Bishop Hay nonchalantelly after a whole article bashing “feeneyism” and trying to convince readers BOD BOB II are very real and happening all around us, ergo they are facts.
The two positions are incompatible.
Lionel:
Your right! They are incompatible!
It is a denial of the dogma.It is heresy.
It is irrational and non compatible.
Your right! They are incompatible!
It is a denial of the dogma.It is heresy.
It is irrational and non compatible.
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Berto:
May I ask, why are you so interested in the SSPX interpretation of V:II, instead of the dogma itself?
May I ask, why are you so interested in the SSPX interpretation of V:II, instead of the dogma itself?
Lionel:
Without the mistake they are making now, Vatican Council II would be in agreement with extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was traditionally interpreted. It would not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities. Since Ad Gentes 7 affirms the dogma.
With extra ecclesiam nulla salus in position Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions, Christian communities and religious liberty.
It means in dialogue with the Vatican, it is the CDF which must allege that all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics must convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.Vatican Council II says this and not pre Vatican Council II traditionalists.
It means that the SSPX can tell the Bishop of Albano that they can accept Vatican Council II in which LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 are not exceptions to the dogma. They can ask him if he is willing to do the same.
There are so many other ramifications once this comes in place.
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