Thursday, November 20, 2014

SSPX (USA) repeats the error in the Letter of the Holy Office : contradicts the dogma defined three times and also Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7)



On the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX/USA) website there is a criticism of Fr.Leonard Feeney's alleged teachings.

The SSPX and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 contradict the dogma defined three times and also Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7).

According to the dogma and Vatican Council II (AG 7) every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church.This is the defacto requirement. In 2014 we do not know any one saved or going to be saved 'united to her  by desire and longing'.So this is factually incorrect. The Holy Office is assuming that possibilities of salvation, hypothetical cases are defacto known in the present times.
So what if there is a case in invincible ignorant ?. It is not objective for us. It is not explicit. It has nothing to do with the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

Those who are united to the Church only by implicit desire and saved are unknown to us in 2014. They are unknown to us over the last 100 years or more.They were unknown also during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.When we do not know any such case personally and cannot in future know any such case then why should we claim that someone is saved united to the Church only by implicit desire?


Fr. Feeney and Catholic doctrine
A reissue of the article appearing in Verbum, No. 24 (1986), prefaced by the previous Editorial, clarifying the teaching of the Church regarding Baptism
Conclusion
Let us finally quote the letter of the Holy Office condemning Fr. Feeney’s teaching:

That one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.(According to the dogma and Vatican Council II (AG 7) every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church.This is the defacto requirement. In 2014 we do not know any one saved or going to be saved 'united to her  by desire and longing'.So this is factually incorrect. The Holy Office is assuming that possibilities of salvation, hypothetical cases are defacto known in the present times) However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance, God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wants his will to be conformed to the Will of God.(So what if there is a case with invincible ignorant ?. It is not objective for us. It is not explicit. It has nothing to do with the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.Mistake compounded!) These things are clearly taught in the dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943 (Mystici Corporis)(He does not say that there are visible cases of persons saved with the baptism of desire etc. Neither does he state there that these cases are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus)... he mentions those who are related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer "by a certain unconscious yearning and desire," and these he by no means excludes from eternal salvation; (He does not state that these cases are visible exceptions to the dogma or that these cases cannot be followed by the baptism of water.So one cannot assume all this and suggest Pope Pius XII said it) but on the other hand, he states that they are in a condition "in which they cannot be sure of their salvation" since "they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church!" With these wise words he reproves both those who exclude from salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire (those who are united to the Church only by implicit desire and saved are unknown to us in 2014. They are unknown to us over the last 100 years or more.They were unknown also during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.When we do not know any such case personally and cannot in future know any such case then why should we claim that someone is saved united to the Church only by implicit desire?), and those who falsely assert that men can be saved equally as well in every religion. (Letter to the Archbishop of Boston, August 8, 1949).


Lumen Gentium 16 ( saved in invincible ignorance) means saved in invincible ignorance followed by the baptism of water according to Ad Gentes 7

SSPX PRIOR AT ALBANO,ITALY SAYS WE DON'T KNOW ANYONE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/sspx-prior-at-albanoitaly-says-we-dont.html

SSPX PRIESTS IN ALBANO,ITALY DISAGREE WITH U.S WEBSITE: THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IN VATICAN COUNCIL II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/sspx-priests-in-albanoitaly-disagree.html

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