If Vatican Council II is ‘discovered’ to be traditional on other religions and Christian communities then the Vatican Curia will have to go on the defensive.

Lionel:

If Vatican Council II is ‘discovered’ to be traditional on other religions and Christian communities then it is the Vatican Curia which will have to go on the defensive.

SSPX will have met the requirement of accepting Vatican Council II ( without the false premise), they will maintain their traditional doctrines and be given canonical status with the independence which they seek.

The first step however is to identify the irrational premise which all sides are using and then there can be a big change in the doctrinal situation vis a vis Vatican Council II.

Rome and the SSPX are using an irrationality in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. So a pastoral document contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Lumen Gentium is not dogmatic but if you consider LG 16, LG 8, LG 14 as referrring to cases who are saved in invincible ignorance etc and who are now in Heaven without the baptism of water, and who are visible on earth to be explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus you get a Vatican Council II which is a break with Tradition. It has become dogmatic. In the sense, it has done away with the dogma on salvation and other religions.

There is doctrinal confusion within the SSPX which has to be cleared. When they admit it then they are in a position to correct Mons. Pozzo and the CDF.

The SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012 says that there are no exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus while the last comunique of Bishop Bernard Fellay (to Friends and Benefactors) says there are exceptions in Vatican Council II to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is confusion.

The same errors were made by the SSPX at their annual conferences in Rimini,Italy.

For me LG 16 LG 8, UR 3, NO 2 are not explicit in 2014 and therefore are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So why are they exceptions for Bishop Fellay, Fr.J.M Gleize, Fr.Francois Laisney and the SSPX District Superior in Italy, Fr.Pier Paolo Petrucci?

There is doctrinal confusion within the SSPX and in their interpretation of Vatican Council II while Mons. Pozzo is of no help.

He wants the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II interpreted with an irrational premise.This would be pleasing to the Jewish Left.

-Lionel Andrades

http://www.harvestingthefruit.com/pozzo/#comments

and Monsignor Guido Pozzo
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/01/and-monsignor-guido-pozzo.html#links