Dr.Joseph Shaw attends the Traditional Latin Mass refusing to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Church Councils, popes and saints.Instead he beleives that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, the political position of the Left, are known exceptions in 2014. So for him all do not need the baptism of water for salvation in England this year. He could name some exceptions in 2014 may be in London.
He infers that the dead saved with the baptism of desire etc and who are now in Heaven are visible and known this year. Otherwise how could they be exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church if they were not known.
This irrationality is acceptable at Oxford University where he needs to teach.It is also acceptable to the Catholic Bishops of England who recognise the Latin Mass Society, of which he is the Chairman.
The following comment on the blog LMS Chairman was difficult for Joseph. He removed it.
Lionel:
At issue is the Traditional Latin Mass. How would a priest offer the Mass? Would he assume that there are known exceptions in 2014 to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus even when he does not know any such exception? He cannot name any such person saved this year.At issue is Vatican Council II. Would he assume that those who are saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) or elements of sanctifcation and truth(LG 8) are exceptions in 2014 to all needing the baptism of water for salvation?
Does Dr.Joseph Shaw who attends the TLM interpret Vatican Council II according to Cushingism or Feeneyism ? Is not Cushingism irrational and heretical ?
Did not the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make a wrong inference when it assumed that the baptism of desire etc referrred to cases visible to us in real life and so they were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
October 7, 2014
Department of Theology and Religious Studies at the University of Bristol is still teaching an irrationality : even after being informed
-Lionel Andrades
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