CCC 1257: Muslims and others

 

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257) all Muslims and other non Catholics need the baptism of water for salvation, since 'God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism'.

So they are oriented to Hell.

We do not know any exception in 2014 that is, when 'God is not bound to the Sacraments'.

1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation. He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them. Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament. The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.

 

The Catechism 1257 -1260 considers those who are saved without the baptism of water as exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla slaus. They are substitutes.

If they are exceptions or substitutes then they would have to be visible to us in the present times.If they are not known to us they cannot be exceptions.This is the error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257-1260.

I can assume that CCC 1257 God is not limited to the Sacraments refers to implicit cases, possibilities.Pope Benedict XVI and the Vatican Curia, interpret it as referrring to visible cases who are exceptions to extar ecclesiam nulla salus.

How can we say that theoretically there are persons in the present times who are exceptions to all needing the baptism of water when we canmot name any such case in 2014?

If we do not know any such person in 2014 then how can we say theoretically, God is not limited to the Sacraments and every one does not need the Baptism of water?

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

VI. THE NECESSITY OF BAPTISM

1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.⁶⁰ He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.⁶¹ Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.⁶² The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.

1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament.( Hypothetically O.K .Defacto there is not such case in the present times. I cannot judge who has been saved as such this year. I cannot say that any one will be saved without the baptism of water but with the baptism of blood).

1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament.(However there are no such case known in 2014 for them to be exceptions. Possibilities yes, Exceptions,no)

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."⁶³ Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved.(As possibilities but not as exceptions) It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

According to CCC 1257 all Muslims need the baptism of water given to adults with Catholic Faith, to go to Heaven and avoid Hell and 1258-1260 do not mention any exceptions.We cannot know any one in 2014 who is an exception.-Lionel Andrades