Thursday, September 11, 2014

Two Catholic Conferences this week end : how would they interpret Dominus Iesus ?

How  would  the two Catholic Conferences to be held in
 the USA this week end  interpret Pope John Paul II's
Dominus Iesus ? With or without the  irrational premise?.
 With the irrational premise of couse. They both will make
 the same mistake and not know about it.

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DECLARATION
"DOMINUS IESUS":ON THE UNICITY AND SALVIFIC
UNIVERSALITY OF

JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

 

Catholic Identity Conference 2014 flyer
 
 
INTRODUCTION

A 1. The Lord Jesus, before ascending into heaven, commanded his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to the whole world and to baptize all nations: "Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; he who does not believe will be condemned" (Mk 16:15-16); "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the world" (Mt 28:18-20; cf. Lk 24:46-48; Jn 17:18,20,21; Acts 1:8).
The Church's universal mission is born from the command of Jesus Christ and is fulfilled in the course of the centuries in the proclamation of the mystery of God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the mystery of the incarnation of the Son, as saving event for all humanity. The fundamental contents of the profession of the Christian faith are expressed thus: "I believe in one God, the Father, Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father. With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come".1
2. In the course of the centuries, the Church has proclaimed and witnessed with fidelity to the Gospel of Jesus. At the close of the second millennium, however, this mission is still far from complete.2 For that reason, Saint Paul's words are now more relevant than ever: "Preaching the Gospel is not a reason for me to boast; it is a necessity laid on me: woe to me if I do not preach the Gospel!" (1 Cor 9:16). This explains the Magisterium's particular attention to giving reasons for and supporting the evangelizing mission of the Church, above all in connection with the religious traditions of the world.3
 
B In considering the values which these religions witness to and offer humanity, with an open and positive approach, the Second Vatican Council's Declaration on the relation of the Church to non-Christian religions states: "The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions. She has a high regard for the manner of life and conduct, the precepts and teachings, which, although differing in many ways from her own teaching, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all men".4
(B: Those non Catholics who are saved with ' a ray of that truth which enlightens all men' are known to us in 2014. So they are exceptions to the infallible teaching outside the Church there is no salvation. B contradicts A.)
 
Members of both the Conferences will use
this irrational interpretation of Dominus
Iesus.
 
There is a third alternative. It is also a rational
interpretation.
 
C.In considering the values which these religions witness to and offer humanity, with an open and positive approach, the Second Vatican Council's Declaration on the relation of the Church to non-Christian religions states: "The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions. She has a high regard for the manner of life and conduct, the precepts and teachings, which, although differing in many ways from her own teaching, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all men".4

(C: Those non Catholics who are saved with ' a ray
 of that truth which enlightens all men' are not known to
 us in 2014.These are hypothehtical probabilities. If they
 exist they would be known only to God. Since they are
not explcit for us they are not exceptions in 2014 to
 the infallible teaching outside the Church there is no
 salvation.C does not contradict A.
 
Since there is nothing in Vatican
Council II to contradict the traditional
 interpretation of the dogma extra
ecclesiam nulla salus, and since
the Council is Feeneyite, Vatican
Council II does not contradict
the traditional teachings on other
religions and Christian communities.
 
When members of the two conferences
 choose C in the interpretation of
 Dominus Iesus, Vatican Council
 II etc.,these magisterial documents
 do not contradict themself and
 neither do they contradict Tradition.
Other passages in Dominus
 Iesus can be interpreted in this
 way, also Redemptoris Missio etc.
-Lionel Andrades




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