According to the Vatican communique, at today's meeting Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, the Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was also present. It is now known that he made a doctrinal error in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.They can be read on line.
He interprets the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 assuming that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are visible to us in real life and these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Similarly, he states on the ITC website that Lumen Gentium 16 etc are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. In other words those non Catholics who have died in invincible ignorance and who are in Heaven without the baptism of water are exceptions to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. The dead are exceptions!So Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition for him.
He is aware of this error but this is the interpretation of Vatican Council II which is expected of him by the Jewish Left.It is with this objective error that the SSPX will have to accept Vatican Council II.
Without this irrationality Vatican Council II is in agreement with extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma on exclusive salvation and LG 16,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions in 2014.The SSPX should discuss this issue and make it public.I affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise.The SSPX and the Vatican Curia can do the same.
For Cardinal Muller there are known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He mentioned this in an interview with the National Catholic Register.
Archbishop Augustine di Noia who was present at today's meeting also when asked about extra ecclesiam nulla salus by the National Catholic Register's Edward Pentin, said Lumen Gentium 8, those saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth',referred to an exception to the dogma.In other words these cases refer to persons actually present in 2014 for them to be exceptions. He also said that he knew Protestants who would be going to Heaven. In other words he could judge that they did not need Catholic Faith (AG 7) for salvation and would be saved.
The SSPX will have to accept all these doctrinal errors for reconciliation and to avoid negative actions against them as meted out to the Franciscans of the Immaculate.
The SSPX will have to deny their General Chapter Statement 2012 in which it was said that the SSPX affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no exceptions.
In spite of so many reports on this blog the Holy See Press Office has never commented on this issue of Vatican Council II being interpreted without the irrational premise.The SSPX and the Franciscans of the Immaculate have the option of accepting Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise. The Holy See Office for political reasons would not comment.
Here is the Vatican Press Communique issued today.
On the morning of Tuesday 23 September from 11 am to 1 pm, a cordial meeting took place at the premises of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, between Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Muller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the Society of St. Pius X. The meeting was also attended by Archbishops Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer, S.I., secretary of the same Congregation, Joseph Augustine Di Noia, O.P., adjunct secretary and Guido Pozzo, secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, along with two assistants from the Society of St. Pius X, Rev. Niklaus Pfluger and Rev. Alain-Marc Nély.
"During the meeting, various problems of a doctrinal and canonical nature were examined, and it was decided to proceed gradually and over a reasonable period of time in order to overcome difficulties and with a view to the envisioned full reconciliation."
'Over a reasonable period of time' they are not going to say that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one rational and the other irrational and the present one accepted (and acceptable in the future) is the irrational one, the one with the false premise of being able to see the dead.
This is the MISSING LINKwe have to be aware of it when interpreting Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston and other magisterial documents (Dominus Iesus,Redemptoris Mission, Mystici Corporis etc).The premise is the MISSING LINK. It decides if the Council is traditional or a break with Tradition.
For the Vatican there can only be 'full reconciliation' with the false premise,with which Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents are read.The Holy Spirit cannot teach this irrationality. Yet this is what the SSPX will have to accept unless they make this issue public.
-Lionel Andrades
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SUNDAY, MARCH 18, 2012
Cardinal Luis Ladaria and the SSPX team made a specific doctrinal error : Vatican SSPX talks collapse
Vatican threatens SSPX with excommunication if they do not except Jewish Left version of Vatican Council II
The Vatican has issued a communiqué regarding the failed talks with the SSPX (1) and seems to suggest that the SSPX could once again be excommunicated if they do not accept Vatican Council II as interpreted by the Jewish Left media and political institutions and Catholic liberals.(2)
The SSPX accepts Vatican Council II as a historical event and recognizes that there are many interpretations of the Council.
They reject the interpretation of Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, the Vatican Secretary of State accompanied by the former Rector of the Angelicum University,Fr.Charles Morerod O.P, who is now a bishop in Switzerland. They both made a doctrinal error when officiating at theInternational Theological Commission.(3)
The same error is being made by the SSPX.
None of them will comment on this doctrinal issue.
-Lionel Andrades
At the conclusion of today’s meeting, out of a concern for avoiding an ecclesial rupture with painful and incalculable consequences, the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X was invited to be so kind as to clarify his position so as to heal the existing rift, as Pope Benedict XVI wished.
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Saturday, February 25, 2012
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION OBJECTIVELY WRONG ON INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-and-sspx-team.html#links
http://chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot.it/2012/04/questo-pomeriggio-un-incontro-decisivo.html
http://chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot.it/2012/04/questo-pomeriggio-un-incontro-decisivo.html
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