Thursday, September 25, 2014

John Paul II we still love you- but you made a mistake!

Since Christ brings about salvation through his Mystical Body, which is the Church, the way of salvation is connected essentially with the Church. The axiom extra ecclesiam nulla salus"--"outside the Church there is no salvation"--stated by St. Cyprian (Epist. 73, 21; PL 1123 AB), belongs to the Christian tradition. It was included in the Fourth Lateran Council (DS 802), in the Bull Unam Sanctam of Boniface VIII (DS 870) and the Council of Florence (Decretum pro Jacobitis, DS 1351). The axiom means that for those who are not ignorant of the fact that the Church has been established as necessary by God through Jesus Christ, there is an obligation to enter the Church and remain in her in order to attain salvation (cf. LG 14). For those, however, who have not received the Gospel proclamation, as I wrote in the Encyclical Redemptoris Missio, salvation is accessible in mysterious ways, inasmuch as divine grace is granted to them by virtue of Christ's redeeming sacrifice, without external membership in the Church, but nonetheless always in relation to her (cf. RM 10). It is a mysterious relationship. It is mysterious for those who receive the grace, because they do not know the Church and sometimes even outwardly reject her. It is also mysterious in itself, because it is linked to the saving mystery of grace, which includes an essential reference to the Church the Savior founded-Pope John Paul II
 
The axiom means that for those who are not ignorant of the fact that the Church has been established as necessary by God through Jesus Christ, there is an obligation to enter the Church and remain in her in order to attain salvation (cf. LG 14).
False. The axiom means 'Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.' -Lumen Gentium 14.
All are saved through the baptism of water in the Catholic Church-period. This was the teaching of the dogma cited (above) by Pope John Paul II.All are saved through formal entry into the Catholic Church.If there is any one saved without the baptism of water it is not known to us. So there cannot be any defacto exception to the dogmatic teaching.
Pope John Paul II infers that those who are saved in other religions through Jesus and the Church, are known to us, they are visible cases to all needing to formally enter the Church with no exceptions.
 
For those, however, who have not received the Gospel proclamation, as I wrote in the Encyclical Redemptoris Missio, salvation is accessible in mysterious ways, inasmuch as divine grace is granted to them by virtue of Christ's redeeming sacrifice, without external membership in the Church, but nonetheless always in relation to her (cf. RM 10). -Pope John Paul II 
 
'those, however, who have not received the Gospel proclamation', and are saved, 'salvation is accessible in mysterious ways, in as much as divine grace is granted to them by virtue of Christ's redeeming sacrifice' - and, these are hypothetical cases,theoretical constructs. They are not living exceptions to all needing 'faith and baptism' for salvation in 2014.So they are not exceptions to all needing to be 'external members of the Church'. We do not know of any case saved in 2014, as Pope John Paul II says, 'without membership in the Church'. We do not know of any defacto case, someone whom we could meet on the streets, who has been saved without external membership in the Church ,' but nonetheless always in relation to her'.
 
'It is a mysterious relationship. It is mysterious for those who receive the grace, because they do not know the Church and sometimes even outwardly reject her.'
 
 'those who receive the grace, because they do not know the Church and sometimes even outwardly reject her' and  are saved, are not people we know of personally. To assume that they are known cases, is Cushingism.
Here the distinction between implicit and explicit, subjective and objective, theoretical and in real life has been blurred and so there is confusion. This is the confusion which has come from Boston, in the Fr.Leonard  Feeney case.It was Cardinal Cushing who was irrational and in heresy.He gave us the visible baptism of desire concept and had  Fr.Leonard Feeney excommunicated. The Holy Office(CDF) approved it.
 
John Paul II we still love you- but you made a mistake!
-Lionel Andrades
 

Pope John Paul II's objective mistake

September 24, 2014
Pope John Paul II also fell before the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/pope-john-paul-ii-also-fell-before.html

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