Thursday, September 18, 2014

Did Cardinal Raymond Burke enter where Cardinal Pell and Mons.Leuzzi feared to tread ?

I had asked Cardinal George Pell,in writing, two questions which he would not answer.1 The same two questions on the Catholic Faith Mons.Leuzzi, an auxiliary bishop in Rome would refuse to anwser.Both of them had time to review the two questions and they chose not to answer them.
Those two questions were at the centre of the appeal to Cardinal Raymond  Burke (Sept.5,2014) .Here is link to the original post on this blog Eucharist and Mission.
 
September 5, 2014
Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate appeal to the Signatura with the following facts
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/franciscan-sisters-of-immaculater.html

Did Cardinal Burke read the blog post and then disuss the issue with Cardinal Gerhard Muller, Prefect of thet Congergation for the Doctrine of the Faith ? Or did he consult Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz ,Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi Ofm.Cap, the Apostolic Commissioner of the Franciscans of the Immaculate ?
 
Was Cardinal Burke asking them for an answer to the two questions ? Since it was related to Vatican Council II which the Franciscans of the Immaculate have to accept to offer the Traditional Latin Mass and have their situation regularised.
Did someone ask Pope Francis to put an end to this issue and remove Cardinal Burke from the influential office?
Cardinal Burke had already given a decision on an appeal made by the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate limiting the power of the Apostolic Visitator.The decision was favourable for the Sisters.
Now if Cardinal Burke answered to the two questions, or had them answered by some Vatican official it would mean that years of propaganda on Vatican Council II would be undone.Catholics would see through the lies, the hyporcisy and the farce.It would mean Cardinal Richard Cushing, teh Archbishop of Boston and the Jesuits there were in heresy and an injustice was done to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Centers.It would mean that the 'magisterium' made an objective mistake. The Holy Office 1949 got it wrong.
Most important of all it would mean that the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate could accept Vatican Council II ( without an irrational premise) and still affirm the ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass.Vatican Council II would be traditional on other religions and Christian communities and this would not be acceptable to the Jewish Left.
Here are the two questions which Cardinal Pell refused to answer.
TWO QUESTIONS
1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2014 ?

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ?
These two questions can be seen in the original  appeal.
Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate appeal to the Signatura with the following facts
The Franciscan Sisters made an appeal to the Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura against an arbitrary attribution of power and the Signatura admitted they were right by limiting the Apostolic Visitator’s power .
The Visitators told the nuns... they urgently needed a “re-education” program according to the criteria of Vatican II.-Rorate Caeili
 
 Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate appeal to the Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura with the following facts.

1. The Excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney, if it was for Catholic doctrine, was a mistake since cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not known in real life. They are invisible for us. Invisible cases cannot be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in 2014. They are irrelevant to the literal and traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is common knowledge that we cannot see the dead who are now in Heaven.Even a non Catholic will tell you that if something does not exist it cannot be an exception.
 2. So there was an error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257) when it says with reference to the necessity of the Baptism of Water that 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'. Upon this error the Balamand Declaration of the International Theological Commission (ITC) says there is no more an ecumenism of return (N.30).While Christianity and the World Religions and The Hope Of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized of the ITC wrongly infers that there are known exceptions to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
 3.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949, during the pontificate of Pope PIus XII, was wrong when it inferred that the baptism of desire/ implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It was an error when they expected Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston to claim that he could see persons saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. He correctly refused to state that there was known salvation outside the Church i.e there was someone who did not need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.
4.Similarly those saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3), invincible ignorance(LG 16), elements of sanctification and truth (LG 8),substitit it (LG 8), seeds of the Word (LG 8) etc are invisible for us. So they cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.
So Ad Gentes 7 supports Feeneyism and NA 2 etc are not exceptions to Feeneyism.
Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions and Christian communities.
Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims etc need faith and baptism (AG 7) to avoid Hell and go to Heaven and Orthodox Christians,Protestants etc need Catholic Faith, which include the Sacraments through which Jesus saves, and the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church to avoid mortal sin and preserve Sanctifying Grace.
Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz ,Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi Ofm.Cap, the Apostolic Commissioner of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, must be asked to affirm a rational Vatican Council II.Ask them to clarify that this is the Vatican Council II which they expect the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept.
They must be asked to clarify that they do not expect the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, to accept Vatican Council II in which all references to salvation are considered to be visible for us instead of invisible.
According to Canon Law they are expected to accept all the teachings of the Catholic Church. Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi must accept Vatican Council II in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries, by the Church Councils, popes and saints.-Lionel Andrades 




 The Vatican Curia, would  have opposed a public discussion of the two questions and the appeal of the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.For years they have avoided commenting on this blog. Cardinal Burke was different.Cardinal Raymond Burke is known to have  announced that the US presidential candidate John Kerry would not be allowed to receive communion because of his pro-abortion stance. He also  excommunicated two women who claimed they were ordained by another woman who was a bishop of the Catholic Church.So, Cardinal Burke must have read the appeal and with his honesty and sense of justice could have reviewed it.For him the teachings of the Church cannot change and the appeal above is clear.The  Sisters were being asked to accept a new and irrational version of Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents.Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz was violating Canon Law.
Where Cardinal Pell and other bishops would fear to tread Cardinal Burke would not be afraid.-Lionel Andrades

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CARDINAL GEORGE PELL FINALLY SAYS HE CANNOT ANSWER IN ROME TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC FAITH  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/cardinal-george-pell-finally-says-he.html#links

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