Cardinal Gerhard Muller and Bishop Bernard Fellay must agree on two points for doctrinal sanity

Cardinal Gerhard Muller and  Bishop Bernard Fellay are to meet this month and for the reconciliation of Catholic groups, they should publically agree on two common sense points, related to the doctrinal confusion of today.

 

They are :-

 

1. We cannot see the deceased who are now saved in Heaven with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.They are visible and known only to God.

2.If something does not exist, it cannot be an exception.If someone is not present in our reality, he cannot be inferred to be an exception to anything.If something is not there it cannot be inferred that it is there.

An agreement on this two simple points will be important for the reconciliaiion of the Vatican among itself, and with the traditionalists SSPX and sedevacantists CMRI etc.It is also important for the reconciliation of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate.

 

The following points which I mentioned in the previous blog post related to the Franciscans of the Immaculate are relevant also for the SSPX and CMRI.

1. The Excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney, if it was for Catholic doctrine, was a mistake since cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not known in real life. They are invisible for us. Invisible cases cannot be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in 2014. They are irrelevant to the literal and traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is common knowledge that we cannot see the dead who are now in Heaven.Even a non Catholic will tell you that if something does not exist it cannot be an exception.

 

2. So there was an error in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257) when it says with reference to the necessity of the Baptism of Water that 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'. Upon this error the Balamand Declaration of the International Theological Commission (ITC) says there is no more an ecumenism of return (N.30).While Christianity and the World Religions and The Hope Of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized of the ITC wrongly infers that there are known exceptions to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

 

3.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949, during the pontificate of Pope PIus XII, was wrong when it inferred that the baptism of desire/ implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It was an error when they expected Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston to claim that he could see persons saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. He correctly refused to state that there was known salvation outside the Church i.e there was someone who did not need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.

 

4.Similarly those saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2), imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3), invincible ignorance(LG 16), elements of sanctification and truth (LG 8),substitit it (LG 8), seeds of the Word (LG 8) etc are invisible for us. So they cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.

So Ad Gentes 7 supports Feeneyism and NA 2 etc are not exceptions to Feeneyism.

Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions and Christian communities.
Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims etc need faith and baptism (AG 7) to avoid Hell and go to Heaven and Orthodox Christians,Protestants etc need Catholic Faith, which include the Sacraments through which Jesus saves, and the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church to avoid mortal sin and preserve Sanctifying Grace.

Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz ,Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi Ofm.Cap, the Apostolic Commissioner of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, must be asked to affirm a rational Vatican Council II.Ask them to clarify that this is the Vatican Council II which they expect the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept.

They must be asked to clarify that they do not expect the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, to accept Vatican Council II in which all references to salvation are considered to be visible for us instead of invisible.

According to Canon Law they are expected to accept all the teachings of the Catholic Church. Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz and Fr.Fidenzio Volpi must accept Vatican Council II in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries, by the Church Councils, popes and saints.

They must agree that :

1. We cannot see the deceased who are now saved in Heaven with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.They are visible and known only to God.

2.If something does not exist it cannot be an exception.If someone is nor present in our reality he cannot be inferred to be an exception to anything.If something is not there it cannot be inferred that it is there.

Even a Catholic school boy can agree on these two points.

 

Cardinal Muller ,Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz and Bishop Bernard Fellay must agree on these two points above for a reconciliation in the Catholic Church.

The Leftist media which opposes the entry of the SSPX into the Church says that the SSPX rejects Vatican Council II. This is false. The SSPX clarifies that they accept the Council as a historical event and they accept 95% of the teachings of the Council.

The media says that the SSPX must accept the 'historical' or 'revolutionary' teachings of Vatican Council II on the Jews, who no more need to convert for salvation.

 

Cardinal Muller and Bishop Fellay must clarify that they accept Vatican Council II without the irrational premise of being able to see the dead on earth, who are  alleged exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in the present times (2014).

 

This would mean Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7) says all need faith and baptism ( Jews included) for salvation 1  and NA 2, LG 16,LG 8, AG 11, etc refer to hypothtetical, invisible for us cases which  cannot be exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Vatican Council II supports Feeneyism and the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church on other religions,when the false premise is not used.-Lionel Andrades

 

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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.