Make it known to the bishop and others that Vatican Council II without the irrational inference is pro extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Keep Ad Gentes 7 1 before you which says all need faith and baptism for salvation .It is pro-extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Then tell the bishop that Nostra Aetate 2 , i.e being saved with 'a ray of the Truth' and allegedly without the baptism of water, does not refer to known cases in 2014. So NA 2, LG 16,LG 8, UR 3 etc are not explicit exceptions to all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and others needing 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) to go to Heaven and avoid Hell-fires.
Tell your bishop and Fr.Steven Fischer that you affirm Vatican Council II (AG 7) as you do the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Ask him to also do the same in public.Inform your non Catholic friends about what the Catholic Church actually teaches. Tell them that your bishop is afraid to speak the truth.
Those who attend the Traditional Latin Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass in Southwark,England can endorse Vatican Council II (AG 7) and also the Syllabus of Errors and the Catechism of the Pope Pius X knowing that Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.
Tell your bishop that you affirm the Feeneyite Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994) since we do not know any of case of 'God not being limited to the Sacraments' (CCC 1257) in 2014. CCC 1257 would agree with you, when it states 'God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism'.
So when the Catechism (1257) says 'God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments' there is no contradiction for you. Since you do not know any one this year or in the past years who was saved without the baptism of water.
Tell your bishop that all salvation in Heaven is not physically visible to you on earth. It is with this principle that you interpret magisterial texts.
Of course you accept being saved with invincible ignorance (LG 16) as a hypothetical possibility known only to God. There may not have been a single such case over the last 200 years or more. The saints tell us that God has sent people back to earth only to be baptized with water. They were not sent to Hell. So St.Emerentina and the martrys who allegedly died without the baptism of water, could have come back to earth to be baptised with water.Any way St. Emerentina and the martryrs of the past are not exceptions this year for all needing the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation.
Everyone saved with invincible ignorance, baptism of desire, a ray of the Truth, good and holy things in other religions(NA), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) seeds of the Word (AG 11) etc would be saved with the baptism of water.Any way they are hypothetical so they do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus or Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.They are irrelevant to the dogma. This was the confusion which has come into the Church with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
Make this known to all that this is the official teaching of the Catholic Church, not only according to Tradition, but according to the text of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.Affirm the official and traditional teaching of the Church after Vatican Council II and ask your bishop to also do the same in public.
This is how I affirm Vatican Council II. You can quote me.I simply cite Ad Gentes 7 and say that Nostra Aetate 2 etc are no exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, since we do not know of any of these cases in 2014.Neither does Vatican Council II say that we know any one saved without the baptism of water.
The Jewish left is encouraging the closure of the TLM.Since they interpret Vatican Council II in which NA 2,LG 16,LG 8,UR 3 etc are assumed to refer to visible cases on earth who are exceptions to AG 7. They assume that those who attend the TLM reject the new ecclesiology based on there being known exceptions outside the Church; the irrational theory of the dead-saved being visible to us on earth and are living exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This would contradict their ecumenical and one world religion agenda.
You have to show them, that Vatican Council II without the irrational premise of NA 2 etc being physically visible to us, affirms the traditional understanding of Church.They may oppose it but this is the official teaching of the Catholic Church according to the text of Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally.So even those who attend the Novus Ordo Mass at Blackfen can be traditional on Vatican Council II doctrine.To assume otherwise is irrational.
-Lionel Andrades
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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching,
and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is
His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of
faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the
necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
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1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation. He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them. Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament. The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.-Catechism of the Catholic Church
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