Who was Cardinal Cushing to suggest that the baptism of desire was an exception to the centuries old teaching?

Fr.R.

you contradict yourself. Firstly, you cannot argue with a Council against another.

Lionel:

I interpret the Council without the irrational premise. The irrational premise says all salvation in Heaven is physically visible to us on earth and so these cases are objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So I do not contradict the Vatican Council II.

Fr.R.

You don’t agree with some other truths in the Bible (as this one: “I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone, for kings and all who are in high positions, so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and dignity. This is right and is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth”, I Tim 2, 1-4), the Tradition of the Church (I think neither Moses nor Elijah where baptized, for instance, and both are considered saints!)

Lionel:

I agree with you here. I pray the rosary for all sinners, for all people. Salvation is available for all in potential. However to receive this salvation all need to enter the Church... 

Fr.R.

and the Magisterium.

Lionel:

Dominus Iesus 20 says salvation is universal and is open to all, and all need to respond and enter the Church. I agree with Dominus Iesus.

Fr.R.

Who is Fr. Leonard Feeney to interpret so authoritative this question?

Lionel:

Fr.Leonard Feeney was saying the same thing as the Church Councils, the popes and saints.

 

Fr.R.

I am so far sure with the teaching of Holy Father Benedict XVI, as also Saint John Paul II who promulgated officially the Catechism… Be more smart!

Lionel

I love Pope John Paul. He was a good pope.He was an ailing pope and it was Cardinal Ratzinger who consolidated power and approved the Catechism. Perhaps he was unaware of the error. It was an innocent mistake.Something he overlooked.

-Lionel Andrades