There can be a Vatican Council II according to a leftist or 'right wing' ideology : it depends upon the premise

There can be a Vatican Council II according to a leftist ideology or a 'right wing' ideology.The leftist interpretation makes the Council 'ambigous'.The traditional interpretation makes Vatican Council II pro- extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The leftist interpretation uses the dead-are-visible-exceptions premise.The traditional interpretation does not use this irrational premise. The traditional interpretation would be called right wing extremism by the leftists.It would simply be Catholic for the opponents of the Left. The irony is that the progressivists and traditionalists are using the leftist interpretation of Vatican Council II. Sedevacantists and traditionalists interpret Vatican Council II using the dead man walking and visible premise.They infer that those non Catholics who are now dead and saved without the baptism of water, are visible in the flesh, exceptions to all needing to enter the Church with faith and baptism.(AG 7). So there is known salvation outside the Church for non Catholics according to the leftist version.They are referring to deceased non Catholics who are visible exceptions to all needing the baptism of water, in the present times for salvation.The deceased are visible! They are examples of known salvation outside the Church?!

So LG 16, NA 2,UR 3,LG 8 etc refer to the deceased now in Heaven saved without the baptism of water. Vatican Council II becomes a break with Tradition. This is the 'leftist' interpretation of Vatican Council II held by the sedevacantists CMRI and MHFM and the traditionalists SSPX,FFSP etc.They criticize a Vatican Council II with the false premise .They are not aware of the false premise nor of the alternative. If they avoided the false premise (dead are visible exceptions) then Vatican Council II would be right wing ideology.

So there is a simple option available for the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St.Pius X. They can affirm Vatican Council II without the false premise.Vatican Council II would be traditional on other religions and ecumenism.It would not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Vatican Council II is not controversial.It is the use of the irrational premise ( i.e there is salvation outside the Catholic Church) which makes it controversial.It is ambigous for Michael Voris, Louie Verrechio, Robert Sungenis and others since they use the irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.They are not aware of the alternative. -Lionel Andrades