Michael Voris has still to correct Fr.Robert Barron and Fr.Jonathan Morris using text from Vatican Council II :all three are irrational

Michael Voris has still to correct Fr.Robert Barron and Fr.Jonathan Morris using text from Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to show the two priests that they are irrational and non traditional.

Michael Voris affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus.However he accepts it with an error as do the two priests. Simon Rafe at Church Militant also makes the same error.They assume 

1) That there are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus mentioned in Vatican Council II.

2)These cases are visible to us in 2014.

3)Or that there is some text in Vatican Council II to support this irrationality.

For Simon Rafe those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He implies:

1) There are cases known to him in 2014 who are saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance.This is what he infers.

2)These cases are probably also visible to Michael Voris.This is inferred.

3)Lumen Gentium 16 refers to defacto cases saved in the present times in invincible ignorance( the text does not state this).This is inferred if LG 16 is considered an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

This is the same error made by the two priests.

Michael Voris cannot correct them since HE TOO assumes Vatican Council II is a break with the past.To be a break with the past LG 16 would have to be not invisible but visible for him.

If he said that those saved in invincible ignorance are possibilities known only to God but are not explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition then he would be rational.If he said LG 16 is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus then he would be rational.I am still waiting for him to say that Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Even though he says that he affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus Michael Voris is making the error as the two priests and Simon Rafe.

-Lionel Andrades

Fr.Jonathan Morris never apologized he assumed the confusion is the norm in the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frjonathan-morris-never-apologized-he.html

Fr.Robert Barron and Michael Voris like most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frrobert-barron-and-michael-voris-like.html