Saturday, August 16, 2014

Fr.Jonathan Morris never apologized he assumed the confusion is the norm in the Church

When Fr.Jonathan Morris said every one does not need to be a Catholic, Michael Voris asked him to apologisze. He did not.Since he probably assumes that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He assumes there are known exceptions outside the Catholic Church to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.In other words every one does not need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell since a non Catholic could be saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire.These cases are not invisible but visible for him. They are not just hypothetical but known in reality. At least this is what was implied in his Legion of Christ formation. So he quite confidently said, like millions of other Catholics, that not every one needs to be a Catholic. He never apologized.He just continued to confuse hypothetical cases as being visible-in-the-flesh exceptions to all needing 'faith and baptism'(Ad gentes 7) for salvation. -Lionel Andrades

3 comments:

George Brenner said...


Can we name a Catholic with certainty that died and is now in Heaven? Of course we can and plenty for that matter.

Can we name a non Catholic who died and with absolute certainty is in Heaven? Of course not.

That is why we must teach that there is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church and all must convert to Catholicism.... and leave the dejure possibilities of salvation completely and only to God.

JMJ,

George Brenner

Catholic Mission said...

George Brenner:
Can we name a Catholic with certainty that died and is now in Heaven? Of course we can and plenty for that matter.

Lionel:
George, the issue is can we physically see a non Catholic saved in Heaven ? Can we physically see a Catholic who died this year and who is in Heaven?
Physically see.
This is important.
Since it is is saisd that there are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
If there are exceptions where are they?
They are not on earth.

George Brenner:
That is why we must teach that there is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church and all must convert to Catholicism.... and leave the dejure possibilities of salvation completely and only to God.

Lionel:
Correct. Agreed!

George Brenner said...


Lionel,

You are correct because what you say is correct. Of course we can not physically see a non Catholic who died this year in Heaven. The Church has all but turned dejure possibilities into defacto events. Shame on them.

George