Tuesday, July 1, 2014

Pope Francis and the Vatican Curia want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to interpret Church documents with an irrationality : appeal for justice

Pope Francis wants the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 while assuming that the baptism of desire is explicit for us instead of implicit.
He then wants this same irrationality to be used in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
The Holy Office 1949 made an error when it assumed that implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation by Fr.Leonard Feeney.
This error is carried over by the Vatican Curia in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate have to affirm Vatican Council II while assuming that all salvation in Heaven is visible on earth. Then it has to be wrongly concluded that these 'visible' cases are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition.
Could the relatives of the Sisters in the Franciscans of the Immaculate(FFI) community  bring this issue to the attention of the Vatican ?. Please ask them to allow the FFI to accept Vatican Council II and all magisterial documents without assuming salvation in Heaven is physically visible on earth.
In this way the FFI can affirm Tradition and also Vatican Council II. Please ask Pope Francis and  the Vatican Curia to first endorse a Vatican Council II without the irrational inference.Also please ask the FFI dissidents to do the same.
-Lionel Andrades

The Letter of the Holy Office makes it an issue. It considers the baptism of desire an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus



Objectively we cannot see a baptism of desire case: the Holy Office 1949 implies we can

This would be an error even if it was said by Pope Francis or Archbishop Lefebvre


Implicit desire is always implicit. Did the Holy Office assume it was explicit?

Objectively we cannot see a baptism of desire case: the Holy Office 1949 implies we can http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/objectively-we-cannot-see-baptism-of.html

The Holy Office 1949 used the dead man walking and visible theory : it was a mistake http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/the-holy-office-1949-used-dead-man.html


A Catholic school boy and a Buddhist meet Archbishop Marchetto and Professor Roberto de Mattei at their next meeting


Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake with the Letter of the Holy Office and carried it over into Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/archbishop-lefebvre-made-mistake-with.html

The SSPX teaches that the baptism of desire ( explicit for us) is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/the-sspx-teaches-that-baptism-of-desire.html#links

Modernists in Rome and the SSPX are in agreement


Martrydom is not a known exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2014


Invisible persons cannot be an exception on earth to Fr.Leonard Feeney saying every one needs the baptism of water for salvation


I accept implicit baptism of desire according to Vatican Council II, Mystici Corporis etc http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/i-accept-implicit-baptism-of-desire.html

Even if there were many cases of persons saved with the baptism of desire ( without the baptism of water) it would be irrelevant to extra ecclesiam nulla salus


We do not know any potential St.Emerentiana or St.Victor so there is only one way of salvation in the Catholic Church in 2014


Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church : no contradiction


If someone has justification God will provide the means for the baptism of water

Modernists in Rome and the SSPX in agreement: 1949 Holy Office Letter teaches Modernist version of EENS - CathInfo. forum

No one is saved without the baptism of water given to adults with Catholic Faith


You can witness a martyrdom but cannot say the person is a martyr and is in Heaven without the baptism of water


Fault is with the SSPX Resistance.They have used the irrational premise


Hypothetical cases cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries


Where is the actual case of someone saved outside the Church ? There is none http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/where-is-actual-case-of-someone-saved.html

Supporters of Fr.Leonard Feeney unfortunately still use the irrational inference .It can be seen in their interpretation of Vatican Council II


Priests who offer Holy Mass in the vernacular now affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus : SSPX, Fr.Paul Kramer deny it


I talk in terms of visible and invisible only because Catholics in general are unaware that they are using these terms


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