Tuesday, July 29, 2014

Fr.Angelo Geiger and his Franciscans of the Immaculate group cannot accept Vatican Council II ( inference-free) because of extra ecclesiam nulla salus

 
 
 
 
Fr.Angelo Geiger and his Franciscans of the Immaculate group cannot accept Vatican Council II ( inference-free) because of extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Fr.Angelo Geiger FFI, cannot accept Vatican Council II (without the visible- dead premise) since he would have to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He would be deserted by the FFI and his present supporters and would come under attack by the Jewish Left as being anti-Semitic.This would be a threat to his 'career'.
But why would he be anti-Semitic when he is affirming Vatican Council II ?
He and the other 'FFI dissidents', the break away group are affirming Vatican Council II while assuming that all salvation mentioned in the Council is physically visible in the flesh to us on earth.They can 'actually see the dead' saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2), invincible ignorance(LG 16), seeds of the Word(AG 11) etc. So for them these cases of the deceased now in Heaven are actual examples on earth of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of people who are saved in the present times without the baptism of water.So for them Vatican Council II rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with this visible-dead theory.
Fr.Angelo instead wants the traditionalists to accept Vatican Council II with this irrational reasoning.
So he is critical of the SSPX and his former colleagues and superiors.
He has not criticized me when I say that I accept Vatican Council II.I accept the Council in which all salvation mentioned or alluded to is implicit for me.It is invisible for me and visible only to God.
I affirm the literal and traditional interpretation of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. I affirm implicit for us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.I reject explicit for us, visible in the flesh baptism of desire.So these cases refer to possibilities but not exceptions to the dogma.
If any one says that the baptism of desire etc refers to explicit cases in 2014 I reject it .It is irrational. When Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani suggests  this irrationality in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, it must be accepted as an objective error.It is a fact of life that we cannot see the dead as we see the living.
So when Pope Francis presents a kerygma without the necessity of the Church for salvation, in which all do not need to enter with 'faith and baptism' (Ad Gentes 7) I reject it.It is a Protestant kergyma.I accept the kerygma with the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation. To be saved one needs to believe in Jesus and respond to his Great Sacrifice by formally entering the Catholic Church.
When the Bishop's Conferences in the USA and Britain assume that being saved with ' a ray of the Truth'(NA 2) is an exception to Tradition it is irrational and should be rejected. This was not part of the Deposit of the Faith before 1949.
 
The Jewish Left has not given permission to the Catholic Church in the present times to affirm Vatican Council II without the strange inference. There is always the threat of anti Semitism laws, which they have placed in many countries, and which they use as weapon.
 
So Fr.Angelo Geiger, the apologists like Mark Shea, Jimmy Akins, and so many other Catholics,like those in the EWTN Administration, imply that they can see the dead, when they interpret Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades
 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/frangelo-geiger-has-deleted-questions-i.html#links
 

 

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