Tuesday, July 8, 2014

Franciscans of the Immaculate being forced to choose the right hand side column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II : conscience issue, injustice being done

The Vatican Curia and Congregations interpret Vatican Council II using the irrational right hand side column. They expect the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St.Pius X  to also do the same i.e they are expected to praise that version of Vatican Council II, which uses the right hand column in the interpretation.It uses an irrational inference.The false premise is made.It is assumed  that the deceased- saved and now in Heaven are explicit for us, known in reality,visible in the flesh, defacto and objectively seen.
The FFI and the SSPX are already using the right hand side column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II but instead of praising the Council they correctly reject this version.
Cardinal Walter Kaspar 1 uses the right hand side column and assumes the Decree on Ecumenism(UR 3), Vatican Council II contradicts the exclusive interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus by Father Leonard Feeney. The Franciscans of the Immaculate  and the SSPX are expected to use the right hand side column which is irrational and false.Upon this irrationality they are to base the new ecumenism.
It is with this lie that the Holy Office (2014) wants the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council to be allowed privileges granted to other Catholic religious communities which  have compromised knowingly or unknowingly.This is a conscience issue. A Catholic religious congregation has to accept an irrationality.Only then it will be granted the privilege of offering the Traditional Latin Mass and having their own seminary.
 
Cardinal Walter Kaspar further suggests that Pope Pius XII did not support Fr.Leonard Feeney on doctrine/dogma but condemned him. In other words Pope Pius XII also made a factual error like Cardinal Kaspar.Pope Pius XII assumed  implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were explicit for us, known in reality,visible in the flesh, defacto known and objectively seen. Cardinal Kaspas and Pope Pius XII were  using  the right hand side column(2).
 
 
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:

implicit                       or explicit for us.

hypothetical              or known in reality.

invisible                     or visible in the flesh.

dejure ( in principle) or   defacto ( in fact ).

subjective                  or objective.

So the Franciscans of the Immaculate can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents.

When they  choose the right hand side column then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2014 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead- saved are visible.This is irrational and the Vatican expects the Franciscans of the Immaculate to violate their conscience and proclaim this irrationality.

If the Franciscans of the Immaculate choose the left hand side column then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.They would not be rejecting Vatican Council.They would be accepting Vatican Council II interpreted with the left hand side column. They would be rejecting Vatican Council II interpreted with the right hand side column.

Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.The dead are assumed to be visible.

 
So the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were never ever an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There are no known exceptions.

Relatives and friends of the Franciscans of the Immaculate must make it known that the FFI can accept Vatican Council II without using  the irrational column.The Vatican could do the same. They could appeal to Pope Francis to do the same.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate are being forced to proclaim a falsehood.
- Lionel Andrades
1
In the course of the Council the “subsistit in” took the place of the previous “est”.[7] It contains in nuce the whole ecumenical problem.[8] The “est” claimed that the church of Christ Jesus “is” the Catholic Church. This strict identification of the church of Christ Jesus with the Catholic Church had been represented most recently in the encyclicals Mystici corporis (1943) and Humani generis (1950).[9] But even according to Mystici corporis there are people who, although they have not yet been baptised, are subsumed under the Catholic Church because that is their express desire (DS 3921).(Lionel: Cardinal Kaspar is using the right hand column here)  Therefore Pius XII had condemned an exclusive interpretation of the axiom “Extra ecclesiam nulla salus” already in 1949.(Lionel: If he did condemn it, it would mean he thought cases of those saved with implicit desire and in invincible ignorance are visible to us and so are visible exceptions to the exclusive interpretation. He would be using the right hand column.)- Cardinal Walter Kaspar, on the website of the Vatican Council for Christian Unity (comments added)
2
Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity claims Pope Pius XII condemned the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus :suggests those in invincible ignorance are explicitly known to us and so contradicts the dogma

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