Friday, June 13, 2014

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Bernard Fellay have used the irrational column

You have often heard it said, “Outside the Church there is no salvation”--a dictum which offends contemporary minds... The doctrine of the Church also recognizes implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God. God knows all men and He knows that amongst Protestants, Muslims, Buddhists and in the whole of humanity there are men of good will. They receive the grace of baptism without knowing it, but in an effective way. In this way they become part of the Church.The error consists in thinking that they are saved by their religion. They are saved in their religion but not by it. There is no Buddhist church in heaven, no Protestant church. This is perhaps hard to accept, but it is the truth. I did not found the Church, but rather Our Lord the Son of God. As priests we must state the truth.-Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre 1
(Lionel: Archbishop Lefebvre is implying here that the baptism of desire is visible for us.He is using the right hand column.) 
Evidently, certain distinctions must be made. Souls can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism,Islam,Buddhism etc) ,but not by this religion. There may be souls who, not knowing Our Lord, have by the grace of the good Lord, good interior dispositions, who submirt to God...But some of these persons make an act of love which implcitly is equivalent to baptism of desire .-Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre 2
(Lionel: Archbishop Lefebvre is implying here that the baptism of desire is visible for us.He is using the right hand column.If it was invisible for him he would not even have to mention it.)

The same declaration (LG, 8) also recognizes the presence of “salvific elements” in non-Catholic Christian communities. The decree on ecumenism goes even further, adding that “the Spirit of Christ does not refrain from using these churches and communities as means of salvation, which derive their efficacy from the fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church.” (UR, 3)
Such statements are irreconcilable with the dogma “No salvation outside of the Church,” which was reaffirmed by a Letter of the Holy Office on August 8, 1949...
The declaration Nostra aetate says that non-Christian religions “often reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all men,” although such men must find in Christ “the fullness of religious life;” it also “regards with sincere respect those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and doctrines.” (NA, 2) Such a claim must be criticized just as the preceding one... -Bishop Bernard Fellay 3 
(Lionel: Bishop Bernard Fellay infers here that LG 8 ( elements of sanctification and truth), UR 3 ( imperfect communion with the Church) and NA 2 ( ray of the Truth) are visible for us.He is using the right hand column).

 
LEFT HAND SIDE COLUMN or   RIGHT HAND SIDE COLUMN


All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3),seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) etc are either:

implicit                     or explicit for us.

hypothetical             or known in reality.

invisible                    or visible in the flesh.

dejure ( in principle) or defacto ( in fact ).

subjective                  or objective  

 

So one can choose from the left hand side or the right hand side column.

If the right hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general on other religions and Christian communities and churches. There are known exceptions in 2014 to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Cathlic Church. The dead- saved are visible.

If the left hand side column is chosen then Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor Tradition on other religions and Christian communities and churches.

Most people interpret Vatican Council II with the right hand side values.

So the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance was never ever an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, unless one is using the right hand side column.There were and are no known exceptions.
 
In 2014 the Padre Pio Prayer groups, the Neo Catechumenal Way, Charismatic Renewal, all the religious communities and most of the Diocesan priests, the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX), Archbishop Gerhard Muller, Archbishop Augustine Di Noi, Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, Monsignor Guido Pozzo and the Vatican Council for the Clergy are using the irrational column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church,Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston 1949,Redemptois Missio, Mystici Corporis, Quanta Cura ...-Lionel Andrades








 
2
Against the Heresies, p.216.

3
http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/we-vigorously-protest-these-canonizations-3956

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