Thursday, May 15, 2014

Explicit Baptism of desire is to be rejected. Implicit BOD known only to God has been mentioned by the saints

From the Most Holy Family Monastery (MHFM), sedevacantist website (with comments)


Also, with regard to ‘BOD’
MHFM: There’s another point to keep in mind if you happen to be arguing with supporters of the false doctrine of ‘baptism of desire.’ It was one of the points covered in this video:
It’s that in addition to the dogmatic arguments (and the key question) which destroy ‘baptism of desire’, it’s important not to forget about the teaching of papal encyclicals to the entire Church in the modern period. They are thoroughly and completely on our side.( They do not claim that the baptism of desire is visible to us and so is relevant or an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus)  They teach the very same truth that the councils infallibly taught: that no one can be inside the Catholic Church (outside of which there is no salvation) without the Sacrament of Baptism (Yes the baptism of water is needed for all for salvation. All in 2014 need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water to avoid Hell) ; that no one can be a Christian without the Sacrament of Baptism (and only Christians are saved); (All need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation in 2014 and there are no exceptions. A non Catholic being saved with the baptism of desire followed by the baptism of water  is a possibility. It is not an exception to the dogmatic teaching.Possibilities are not known realities to be exceptions) and that no one can enter the Kingdom of God without faith and the rite (Sacrament) of Baptism. That’s the teaching of the Catholic Church. In all of history the Catholic Church never taught anything else in any document on faith or morals applying to the universal Church. Thus, those who support ‘BOD’( explicit BOD is to be rejected. Implicit BOD known only to God has been mentioned by the saints) in the face of the facts not only reject the dogmatic arguments and the teaching of the Church expressed in councils, etc.,(One can affirm the dogmatic teaching along with implicit BOD. It does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.For the MHFM it would be a contradiction since they assume that BOD is explicit for us ) but they reject the reiteration of that dogma in papal encyclicals which taught faith and morals to the entire Church. In fact, many of those heretics even condemn the teaching of the Catholic Church expressed below as evil, mortally sinful and heretical. They have tremendous bad will and they are very deceived.

Pope Pius XI, Quas Primas (#15), Dec. 11, 1925, addressed to the universal Church, concerning entrance into the Kingdom of God: “Which Kingdom indeed is set forth in the Gospels as one into which men prepare to enter by doing penance but are unable to enter except through faith and baptism, which, although it is an external rite, nevertheless signifies and effects an interior regeneration.”

Pope Pius XII Mediator Dei (#47), Nov. 20, 1947, addressed to the universal Church, referring to the Sacrament of Baptism: “… the washing of baptism distinguishes and separates all Christians [christianos omnes] from the rest whom this stream of atonement has not washed and who are not members of Christ…”

Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (# 22), June 29, 1943, addressed to the universal Church: “Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have received the laver of regeneration and profess the true faith…”
 
 
 
-Lionel Andrades

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