Sunday, April 27, 2014

SSPX PRIEST SAYS THERE IS NO KNOWN EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS : BISHOP AND DISTRICT SUPERIOR SAY THERE ARE

 A possibility of salvation is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, so when Pope John Paul II and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre  believed a non Catholic could be saved in another religion they were not saying that these are defacto, known cases? Or were they saying just that ?! These possibilities of salvation if they were defacto, known would be of course exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
 
Today I spoke to a priest of the Society of St.Pius X, Albano and he said that he affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  and there are no known exceptions in 2014.
 

So Nostra Aetate 2 would refer to a possibility of salvation for a non Catholic. NA 2 does not say that these possibilities are defacto, known cases.The SSPX priest said that he did not know of any defacto case who could be saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
 
A possibility of salvation is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is the confusion also with the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney, the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
 
The supporters of Fr.Leonard Feeney are critical when  Archbishop Lefebvre  says a Hindu in Tibet can be saved in his religion.They should not be critical since this is not an exception.
 

When the Letter of the Holy Office  1949 mentioned a person can be saved with implicit desire , this is not an exception to the dogma!

This is the confusion among traditionalists .
 
 When I ask them if Vatican Council II is in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus there is no answer.

The District Superior of the SSPX has written that Vatican Council II contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This book is being sold for 16 euros at the SSPX chapel in Rome.

 
For him a possibility of salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II ( NA 2 etc) is  assumed to be not just a possibility but also a known case in real life. It is as if the District Superior knows of such a case in Albano , the Italian Headquarters of the SSPX.If he did not know of such a case personally, how could it be an exception?
 
Father Pierpaolo Petrucci contradicts the SSPX priest with whom I spoke to today and also other SSPX priests at Albano.
 
If the District Superior did not imply  that Vatican Council II (NA 2)  states there are known cases saved 'outside the visible limits of the church' then there would be no exceptions in Vatican Council II to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the traditional teaching on other religions.

The SSPX would have to admit that Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake if he assumed there was known salvation  in another religion ( the Hindu saved in his religion in Tibet through Jesus and the Church).If he assumed a possibility is a known reality then he made a mistake,

Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus unless you assume possibilities are known realities, known exceptions.The SSPX priest says there are no known exceptions and an SSPX  bishop and the District Superior Italy in books published by the Society state their exist exceptions and these exceptions are mentioned in Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades

 
 

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