Wednesday, February 5, 2014

If Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong, still imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) and the baptism of desire are not explicit for us : no clarification still from SSPX Italy

There still is no clarification from the Fraternità San Pio X , the Society of St.Pius X in Albano, Italy.
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In an article on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II and the loss of the missionary spirit in the Catholic Church (1) , the District Superior Fr.Pierpaolo Petrucci  assumes imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) and good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) are explicit for us, known in reality, visible in the flesh,defacto and objective. So for him Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with UR 3, NA 2 etc.
Then he will not affirm the traditional position on extra ecclesiam nulla salus since he assumes that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicit for us, known in reality, visible in the flesh,defacto and objective. They would have to be all these qualities for them to be visible exceptions to the need for all to convert into the Church.
 
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The District Superior of the SSPX in Italy considers those saved in 'imperfect communion with the Church' (UR 3) as being known, visible, explicit in 2014 and so is unable to say that Vatican Council II says all Christians need to enter the Catholic Church (AG 7) for salvation.
 
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. - Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II. (Emphasis added)
 
On the website of the Fraternità Sacerdotale San Pio X Fr. Pierpaolo Petrucci comments on the recent ecumenical meeting at the Basilica of St.Paul Outside the Walls at which Pope Francis was present. He writes :
But from whom comes this scandal if not by those who have left the Church, rejecting the authority of the Pope and revealed truth? To repair this scandal why does the pope not invite those who are separated to return to the unity of faith, worship and submission to the legitimate pastors, unity with the Catholic Church which was never lost and so should be found? So the popes, before the last council such as Pius IX at the first Vatican Council, launched an urgent appeal to the Christians dissidents to return to the bosom of the Church. 2

He cites Pius IX and Vatican Council I but omits Vatican Council II since he assumes there are known exceptions. The dead-saved in Heaven are visible exceptions on earth!?
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The Society of St.Pius X, Italy (Fraternità Sacerdotale San Pio X), Albano has made available on its website its position on ecumenism. It has quoted a section of the book Catechismo della crisi nella Chiesa, by Fr. Mathias Gaudron FSSPX which will soon be made available in Italian according to the website.
Once again, like the District Superior at Albano, Fr.Pierpaolo Petrucci, it is assumed that 'imperfect communion in the Church'(UR 3) is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The report on ecumenism by Fr.Matthias Gaudron is cited in Fr.Pierpaolo Petrucci's article on the recent ecumenical meeting at the Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, where Pope Francis was present. 3
 
There is still no clarification from the  Fraternita San Pio X on the factual error made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
 
If Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong, still imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) and the baptism of desire are not explicit for us. So they cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
If the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston supported or condemned Fr.Leonard Feeney on doctrine/ dogma,imperfect communion with the Church, being saved in other religions (NA 2) or being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) are not  exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma by Fr.Leonard  Feeney.   - Lionel Andrades
 
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Atti del XX Convegno di Studi Cattolici, Rimini 2012. Concilio Vaticano II e la salvezza delle anime, la morte dello spirit missionario di Don Pierpaolo Petrucci pp.39-58. Published by Fraternita Sacredotale San Pio X in collaboration with La Tradizione Cattolica.
p.39 Fuori dellaChiesa non c'e salvezza.
p.47. Gli errori penetrati nel Concilio.
p.49. Unitatis Redintigratio
p.51. Nostra Aetate 2
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Ma da chi viene lo scandalo se non da parte di coloro che hanno abbandonato la Chiesa, rigettando l’autorità dal Papa o una parte delle verità rivelate? Per riparare questo scandalo perché non si invita coloro che si sono separati a ritornare a quell’unità di fede di culto e alla sottomissione ai legittimi pastori, unità che la Chiesa cattolica non ha mai perso e che quindi non deve ritrovare? Così facevano i pontefici prima dell’ultimo concilio come per esempio Pio IX che in occasione del Concilio Vaticano I lanciava un appello accorato ai cristiani dissidenti perché ritornassero nel seno della Chiesa.[1]

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http://www.sanpiox.it/public/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1230:l-ecumenismo&catid=64:crisi-nella-chiesa&Itemid=81


Fonte: Dal Catechismo della crisi nella Chiesa, don Mathias Gaudron FSSPX, edizione italiana fra poco disponibile. albano@sanpiox.it
 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/vatican-council-ii-itself-calls-for-all.html#links


SSPX District Superior Italy cites Fr.Matthias Gaudron on ecumenism also with the same error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/sspx-district-superior-italy-cites.html#links

No Clarification from SSPX District Superior, Italy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/no-clarification-from-sspx-district.html#links







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