Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Muslims for peace do not accept Mohammad as the last prophet of Islam

Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad - World Muslim Leader

The Muslims for peace in Italy do not accept prophet  Mohammad as the last prophet according to  reports in the Jakarta Post and other media cited on an Ahmediyya website and the Internet.(1)
They Ahmediyyas refer to Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad as their leader, the word Hazrat means prophet.(2) The Ahmediyyas get their name from Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad  who was born in Qadian,India in 1835.(3)
The present Hazrat Mirza Masroor lives in England and had greeted Pope Francis when he was elected pope.
According to the website Persecution of Ahmediyyas members of their community have been charged under the Islamic blasphemy laws as in the case of Asia Bibi in Pakistan.The website has  graphic images of Ahmediyyas being killed.
The Ahmediyyas are projecting Islam as a religion of peace. 
-Lionel Andrades

Sedevacantists, traditionalists,Departments of Theology suggest Blessed Pope Pius XII made a mistake

Sedevacantists and traditionalists just like the Department of Theology at the Holy Cross , Angelicum and Urbaniana universities indicate that Pope Pius XII made an objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX-N. America) on their websites and books have repeated that the Holy Office condemned Fr.Leonard Feeney for his rigorist interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and for not accepting the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.
So it means Pope Pius XII considered the baptism of desire etc as being visible and known to us. He assumed we can see the dead who are saved with the baptism of desire etc.
This is an objective error. It is a fact that we cannot see the dead so how can they be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus which says all need to convert into the Church?
This is also the teaching at the universities Holy Cross, Angelicum, Urbaniana, Regina Apostolorum and the seminaries in Rome.They are making the same mistake as the sedevantists etc.
Similarly the sedevacantists CMRI (Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculate) state on their website that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma on salvation. They too are saying that Pope Pius XII made a mistake.
 Is Feeneyism Catholic
 The Angelus Press of the SSPX (N.America) has published a book written by an SSPX priest Fr.Francois Laisney  which indicates that Blessed Pope Pius XII made a mistake. The book does not say it directly but when it is assumed that Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy, it is implied that the baptism of desire etc are visible to us.They are visible  for them to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.So Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy for them.Since he did not say he could see cases on earth saved with the baptism of desire.
 For all of them salvation in Heaven in 2013 would be visible to us physically.
Then the sedevacantists, traditionalists and other Catholics have extended this rationale to Vatican Council II. LG 16 (invincible ignorance) refer to physically visible cases. So many reports on the Internet state LG 16 is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Here is Cardinal Kurt Koch confirming the error in an article in Italian in the L'Osservatore Romano (Nov. 12, 2013). (1)
This effort has certainly not lost any of its relevance now that we are to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the beginning of Vatican II. On the contrary , it has become even more urgent especially if we bear in mind the trends, long dominant to this important event, they see the council a break with the tradition of the Church, and this , in two directions : on the one hand, progressive currents continue to understand the council as the end of the previous ecclesial tradition and the beginning of something new.
Lionel: Since the progressives assume that Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy,  it means  LG 16 (invincible ignorance) is a break with Tradition.So Vatican Council II has begun something new.
 How to break with tradition the Vatican is interpreted on the other side , from the traditionalist current , which accuse him of having given birth to a new church , no longer identical to that existed until then.
Lionel: Correct since they are all assuming there are known cases of salvation which are exceptions to the dogma on salvation and the Syllabus of Error.The Council has given birth to new doctrines and a new church.
It is therefore no coincidence that these two extreme tendencies , already on a linguistic level , agree on making a distinction between the pre-conciliar Church and the post-conciliar Church , as if the Church was no longer the same before and after the council .
Lionel: Yes the Church is no longer  the same before and after Vatican Council II if you use the false premise of being able to see the dead who are saved.Cardinal Kurt Koch too assumes  these cases are living exceptions to Tradition.
 The difference between the two trends is that while the progressive empathic supports a hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture ,
Lionel: There is a hermeneutic of rupture, correct. It is the premise which determines the hermeneutic.Without the irrational premise there is a hermeneutic of continuity.
the traditionalist favors hermeneutic of simple , ahistorical continuity ,
Lionel: This was  there in magisterial documents before the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
but in reference to the Second Vatican Council , is revealed also a hermeneutic of rupture.
Lionel: The traditionalists also can only interpret the Council with the false premise.They are not aware that  Vatican Council II can also be interpreted without the false premise.
 From both perspectives , the Vatican is no longer considered as part of the living tradition of the Church, existed until then, but as its end.
Lionel: If you use a false premise with any Church document there will be a break with the past.

Cardinal Kurt Koch's straw house is leaking.It could collapse any time

Cardinal Kurt Koch is playing upon the naivety of the traditionalists and sedevacantists.He states that ' “two extreme tendencies” – the progressive and the traditionalist – see the Second Vatican Council as a rupture rather than as “part of the living tradition” of the Church.'This is another straw man argument.
His house of straw projection of Vatican Council II is collapsing since we have found out the simple premise, the irrational link, he uses in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
He has written a short article in the L'Osservatore Romano and could be as desperate as Cardinal Walter Kaspar, who wrote in the L'Osservatore Romano that Vatican Council II was 'ambigous'.Some traditionalists picked up the bait and agreed with him.
Vatican Council II is not ambiguous since it is in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is also in accord with the Syllabus of Errors on the issue of other religions and Christian communities and churches.
While contrary to his and Cardinal Kaspar's logic, Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 8, AG 11, UR 3, NA 3 etc) are not exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors, the defined dogma and Ad Gentes 7.
So there is no ambiguity on other religions and ecumenism, unless he assumes we all can can see the dead saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16), elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8) etc who are known exceptions to Tradition.
There are Catholic priests at Albano,Italy (SSPX) and they are waiting for the green signal from their leaders to expose this lie of the dead being visible  exceptions to Tradition.
Last month the Dean of Theology of the St.Anselm University,Rome said there were no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.An American Archbishop and an apologist has said the same.So cardinals Kurt Koch and Walter Kaspar and the Vatican Curia could be aware of their statements.Rather than accept Vatican Council II as being traditional, they could be willing to settle for something less.
Once the people know the truth, it would be difficult for the cardinals to keep saying Vatican Council II is ambiguous or that there can be two views of the Council.
-Lionel Andrades

Archbishop Guido Pozzo must help sedevacantists to re-enter the Catholic church

There are sedevacantists who would be ready to enter the Catholic Church if Archbishop Guido Pozzo, Secretary of Ecclesia Dei, Vatican clarified that Vatican Council II (AG 7) is in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and that Vatican Council II ( LG 16;LG 8, AG 11, UR 3, NA 3 etc) are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.
The Secretary of Ecclesia Dei , has only to say that we cannot see the dead. He does not have to go into theology or apologetics.
Affirming a simple objective observation, that one cannot see the dead on earth, will help the sedevacantists understand that Vatican  Council II is traditional.
The sedevacantists assume there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.So they reject Vatican Council II.The truth needs to be shown to them.They should be welcomed back into the Church.
-Lionel Andrades

Muslims for peace in Rome

There are Muslims who believe in the prophet Mohammd but do not believe he is the last prophet of God.Since they demonstrate this belief in public and still claim they are Muslims they are imprisoned in countries in which the Arab colonial culture had been imposed on the local population.Mirzaities(Qadianis) are in many jails under the Islamic blasphemy laws.
They also call themself Ahmediyyas and have won court cases which give them the right to call themself Muslim.
In Rome I found one of their pamphlets at Termini. I have just found one of their websites.They project Islam as a religion of peace.
Muslims For PeaceMuslims (Wahabis, Sunnis) do not approve of the Ahmediyas demonstrating the First Kalma which says 'there is no God but Allah and Mohammad(PBUH) is the prophet of Allah'.
The Ahmediyas who have exhibited the First Kalma prominently have been persecuted by fellow Muslims.
Politically in countries with dominant Muslims populations the Ahmediyas are considered minorities, and non Muslims.They have an above average literacy rate as compared to the rest of the Muslim polulations. They are also missionaries on the streets, inviting other Muslims to join them .
There is a special Muslim(Sunni) organisation formed to counter the work of the Ahmediyyas in Muslim countries
-Lionel Andrades

Not the Indulgence It Was Before

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