Wednesday, November 6, 2013

TWO STANDARDS IN BOSTON

Regarding the doctrinal aspects of Medugorje which the Papal Nuncio to the USA said is under investigation it must be noted that  there is also the doctrinal issue of the Dean of Theology at the University of the Holy Cross, assuming, like Archbishop Gerhard Muller that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so Vatican Council II is a break with the past.
 
This was the error at the Vatican-SSPX doctrinal talks at which a priest of Opus Dei also participated.
It is with this irrational interpretation of being able to see the dead who are known exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation, that Cardinal Sean O Malley, the Archbishop of Boston conducts ecumenism and interreligious meetings. He has never been under doctrinal investigation as is the Medugorje seer in Boston, Ivan  Dragičević.
 
At the St. Richard Church in Danvers, Massachusetts, where Ivan Dragicevic was to speak, they do not affirm a defined dogma  and re-interpret the Nicene Creed, believing "I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sin, water, blood and desire". This is common in Boston. I have been in correspondence with churches there. They all assume that it is a doctrine of the church to be able to see the dead who are exceptions to all needing to convert into the church in the present times.
This may seem hilarious to some but they are very serious about this in Massachusetts.
 
The papal nuncio, Carlo Maria Viganò and Monsignor Ronny Jenkins, general secretary of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops have never disproved this commone 'phenomenon' in the USA.
 
For Boston College, the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, condemned Fr. Leonard Feeney, since he refused to admit there was known phenomena in Boston which contradicted the traditional teaching.
-Lionel Andrades

MEDUGORJE PHENOMENON AT THE CDF OFFICE

The Apostolic Nuncio to the USA says the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is investigating some doctrinal aspects of the Medugorje Commission!
 









Doctrinal aspects ??!!
Archbishop Gerhard Muller has stated in a interview with the National Catholic Register that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, like, people saved in invincible ignorance.
So for him Lumen Gentium 16, is an exception in Vatican Council II ,to the traditional teaching of the church on salvation.
This is Catholic doctrine ? He can see the dead saved on the streets of Rome just like Ivan, the Medugorje visionary in Boston, can see Our Lady in Heaven.
This same type of phemomena is repeated by the Congregation  for the Doctrine of the Faith's Archbishop Augustine di Noia. He told Edward Pentin in another interview with the National Catholic Register that being saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8) are known exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is another Medugorje phenomenon at the CDF office.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
 

PAPAL NUNCIO IN U.S. BARS ALLEGED APPARITIONS FROM CHURCHES ON DIRECTIVE FROM ROME



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The Papal Nuncio was following a 1991 directive. A few years back official pilgrimages to Medugoje were stopped by the Vicariate in Rome and photographs and paintings associated with Medugorje were removed from  Rome's churches.
 
The church still permits unofficial pilgrimages to Medugorje and has not condemned the apparitions which have had great pastoral value.
 
Personally, I believe Our Lady is appearing at Medugorje,  the location surrounding the church,  in a special way, irrespective of the visionaries. Pilgrims are still welcome to attend  Holy Mass at St.James Church and do the Stations of the Cross at Mt. Krizevac.
-Lionel Andrades

Protestants and bad Catholics are in heresy and are going to Hell- Michael Voris


No reply from Mons. Angel Rodriguez Luno to the two questions

Angel Rodriguez LuñoI have e-mailed the last blog post Secret at Opus Dei University to the Dean of Theology at the University of the Holy Cross,Mons. Angel Rodriguez  Luno  and to Fr. Francesco Giordano a religious formator of students of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Rome.
None of them are expected to reply judging from my past communication with them.
 
I had asked him these two questions to clarify what is his and the Opus Dei's position:
1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2013 ? 

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
 
Mons. Angel Rodrigues Luno is ready to teach error and heresy at the university to protect his career and may be that of some of his superiors.
Students at the University, like that of Fr. Massimiliano dei Gasparri FFI are taught that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesim nulla salus in the present times (2013).
They are taught that we can physically see people now in Heaven saved in invincible ignorance etc who are real,known exceptions to all needing to convert into the Church in the present times to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
This is irrational.
This is an irrational premise used in theology and philosophical observation . It is also used to interpret text in Vatican Council II.
Invincible ignorance mentioned in Vatican Council II (LG 16) is supposed to be a known exception to other text in Vatican Council II (AG 7) which supports the traditional dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Vatican Council II contradicts itself at the Opus Dei university. This is a new mystery in the Catholic Church.
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Fr.Francesco Giordano is familiar with this problem for now some two years and yet he will not speak the truth in public, as a priest.
-Lionel Andrades

Opus Dei responds


I have received an e-mail reply asking for comments on the last blog post (Secret at Opus Dei University). It is from the Press Office of Opus Dei.
Brian Finnerty (press@opusdei.org) writes :
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Opus Dei has no position of its own on theological questions; we simply teach what the Catholic Church teaches.
I am not familiar with the academic writings you mentioned in your blog post. If you have any questions about these writings you can pursue these questions with the author or with the faculty supervising these studies.
Best regards,
Brian Finnerty
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The issue is not theology. It is an irrational premise used at the University of the Holy Cross,  in theology and philosphy, and in the interpretation of magisterial documents including the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II.
The fundamental question is : can we see or personally know in 2013 people saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire, seeds of the Word (AG 11),imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) etc for them to be known exceptions to the following teachings of the Catholic Church:-
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door...-Ad Gentes 7, Catechism of the Catholic Church 846
Since the Dean of Theology at the University of the Holy Cross Mons. Angel Rodriguez Luno cannot name any exceptions in 2013, the following citation is only an accepted possibility known to God and not an exception to  all needing 'faith and baptism'  for salvation.
Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. - Ad Gentes 7, Catechism of the Catholic Church 846
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church do not mention exceptions to Ad Gentes nor the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Yet in the Masters thesis of Fr. Francesco Giordano they are considered as exceptions.
He assumes that the Letter of the Holy Office was a condemnation on doctrine of Fr. Leonard Feeney, instead of the Archbishop of Boston, Richard Cushing.
If implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are not exceptions to 'the dogma' , the 'infallible teaching', (Letter of the Holy Office 1949) then Pope Pius XII supported Fr. Leonard Feeney on doctrine and faulted the Archbishop.
It is this irrationality which is being taught by the faculty of theology at the Univeristy of the Holy Cross and there is no comment from Mons. Luno.
-Lionel Andrades