The SSPX rejects the Jewish Left, Masonic interpretation of Vatican Council II,including that of the ADL

When the ADL calls the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) a sect it is false. Since the SSPX are Catholics who reject Vatican Council II with the false premise of being able to see the dead saved which is supposedly an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The SSPX rejects the Jewish Left, Masonic interpretation of Vatican Council II,including that of the ADL, which used an irrational premise and so the Council emerges modernist.

The ADL website says 'During his December 28 speech in Ontario, Canada, Bishop Fellay made clear that SSPX would never accept the historic reforms of the 1965 Second Vatican Council, which declared anti-Semitism a sin, affirmed God's irrevocable Covenant with the Jewish people, and fostered historic positive and productive dialogue between the Catholic Church and Jews.'

By 'the historic reforms' ADL refers to an interpretation of Vatican Council II which uses the the premise of the dead being saved and walking on the earth. So this would mean, for the ADL, Lumen Gentium 16 refers to those saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience and who are visible to us on earth. Since they are visible to us they are an exception to the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church which says all Jews and other non Catholics need to convert into the Church for salvation. Without this irrational premise, Vatican Council II would agree with the SSPX position on Jews and other religions.So one can hardly call the SSPX a sect only for rejecting a new interpretation of the Council.

Vatican Council II  in Nostra Aetate 4 states that Catholics are the new people of God. Catholics are the Chosen People. The Jews were the Chosen People.While Ad Gentes 7 states all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.This is an affirmation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.There are no exceptions in Vatican Council II to Ad Gentes 7 and the dogma on exclusive salvation.Nostra Aetate and Ad Gentes agrees with the SSPX position on other religions and ecumenism.It is contrary to the Jewish Left propaganda repeated on the ADL website.

-Lionel Andrades



http://www.adl.org/PresRele/VaticanJewish_96/bishop-fellay-unrepentant-anti-semite-10813.htm

Canoncially do the Franciscan Conventuals have to accept Vatican Council II with the false premise? Are their ordinations valid?

The Franciscan Conventual Curia in Rome accepts Vatican Council II along with the irrational premise of the dead being visible.So they assume that Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and that the Council contradicts itself. Lumen Gentiium 16 contradicts Ad Gentes 7.They have been granted canonical status by the Catholic Church inspite of the added-on premise.

The Society of St.Pius x (SSPX) has to accept Vatican Council II with the premise of the dead man walking to receive canonical status.It is not clear if they will still be granted canonical status without the premise of being able to see the dead saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.They presently have no canonical status according to the Vatican.

The Franciscan Curia will not answer if implicit salvation is visible to them and if these cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma.Their ordinations are valid, unlike the SSPX, as candidates for the OFM Conventual priesthood allege they can see the dead. This is a general observation among them.

This is an 'irregular' canonical requirement.

Why cannot the Franciscan Conventual priests like St.Maximillian Kolbe deny that the dead saved are explicit exceptions to the dogma ? St.Maximilian Kolbe had canonical status without having to affirm this irrationality.Cannot the same privilege be given also to the SSPX ?.-Lionel Andrades

http://www.francescani.net/

The Society of St.Pius X should ask the Vatican how can they be canonically expected to accept a Vatican Council II with the false premise of the dead being visible

How can there be an ecclesial rupture if the SSPX rejects Vatican Council II with the added-on premise of the dead man walking ?

How can there be canonical restrictions for not accepting Vatican Council II with an irrationality ?

Canonically do we Catholics , SSPX and non SSPX, have to accept Vatican Council II with the false premise ?- Lionel Andrades

"Fr.Federico Lombardi can the SSPX accept Vatican Council II without the false premise ?"- this is the question for the traditionalists to ask

The important question for the Vatican spokesman which needs to be asked is : Can the Society of St.Pius X accept Vatican Council II without the false premise of being able to see implicit cases on earth ? Can there be two interpretations of the Council - one with the false premise and the other without it?

-Lionel Andrades

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Reuters does not ask Fr.Federico Lombardi S.J if implicit salvation is visible to him.

It would be the end of the Jewish Left error, probably out of ignorance,if Reuters asked the Vatican spokesman if he could see the dead walking on earth.Ridiculous?! It makes sense when you consider that this is the basis for the leftist media propaganda on Vatican Council II and other religions.

They assume that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more relevant now, since Vatican Council II (LG 16) refers to the dead man walking on earth saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience.These cases are supposed to be exceptions to the centuries old  interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation being there in only the Catholic Church.

Reuters could also ask the Vatican spokesman, if the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) is expected to accept Vatican Council II with this irrational premise?

Without the false premise implicit salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus while Vatican Council II (AG 7) directly affirms the dogma on exclusive salvation. So Vatican Council II would be in agreement with the SSPX traditional position on other religions.-Lionel Andrades

SSPX PRIEST CONTRADICTS REUTERS,WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS UNDERSTANDING OF VATICAN COUNCIL II AND OTHER RELIGIONS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/sspx-priest-contradicts-reutersjewish.html#links

REUTERS CONTINUES TO PROJECT MASONIC AGENDA ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/reuters-continues-to-project-masonic.html#links