SSPX priest says being saved in 'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3) is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

 

A Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) priest who offered the Traditional Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome today morning said that being saved 'in imperfect communion with the Church'(UR 3) or in invincible ignorance(LG 16) are not known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

 

Fr.Gabriel with whom I spoke to today morning said that there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and that being saved with the baptism of desire etc are possibilities but not exceptions.

 

He was indirectly contradicting Fr.Jean Marie Gleize and the SSPX  position on Vatican Council II having exceptions to the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities.

 

There are no known exceptions to the traditional teaching on all needing to convert into the Church for salvation in the present times, said the young SSPX priest.His view is shared by the SSPX Prior Fr.Aldo Rossi and other Italian priests with whom I spoke to over a year.

 

On Mission Sunday he was in agreement with Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7 (2)and Lumen Gentium 14) which says all need to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism'  for salvation.Fr.J.M Gleize does not mention AG 7 and LG 14 in his books.

 

Even though Fr.Gabriel is in agreement with AG 7 and LG 14 and also the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus he still is not ready to say that Vatican Council II , in its text does not contradict the dogma . He still wants to hold the SSPX formal position that Vatican Council II contradicts the Church's traditional teaching on other religions and ecumenism, even though the text does not say so, when interpreted without the dead- saved and visible theory of Cushingism.

-Lionel Andrades

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For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect. The differences that exist in varying degrees between them and the Catholic Church - whether in doctrine and sometimes in discipline, or concerning the structure of the Church - do indeed create many obstacles, sometimes serious ones, to full ecclesiastical communion.-Unitatis Redintigratio 3,Vatican Council II.

 

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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.