Friday, July 26, 2013

'This is the teaching of the Church'

So when someone tells you that being saved  with the baptism of desire  is a teaching of the Church, say,"Yes!-but it is not an exception to the dogma. Since no  Church text says it is and neither do we know of any such case in 2013".
 
It's usually said that 'This is the teaching of the Church', when they are  referring to popular opinion.If it is not there in the text of a magisterial document then it is not the teaching of the Catholic Church.
 
For example no magisterial document states invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire  are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They just mention these cases as possibilities.If there was such a case it would be known only to God.Since they are unknown to us reason tells us  that they are not exceptions to the dogma on salvation.We personally cannot see any case in 2013 saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism, of desire.
 
So there are no exceptions to  the dogma and the dogma is the official teaching of the Catholic  Church.It has not been retracted.
 
 So when I say that all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Christians and others need to formally enter the Catholic Church (with faith and baptism), I am referring to the official  teaching of the Catholic Church. It's offiical according to magisterial  texts, Scripture and the Magisterium of the past  popes, including that of Pope Benedict XVI (subsistit it).(1)It was supported by Pope Francis when he said that we cannot find Jesus outside the Catholic Church and he cited Pope Paul VI and St. Ignatius of Loyola.
 
So what is commonly said to be the teaching of the Church is not the teaching of the Church and the offiical teaching of the Church after  Vatican Council II is all need to enter the Church and there are no known exceptions.
 
So what the liberals, SSPX and sedevacantists consider the teaching of the Church,with reference to  Vatican Council II, is not the teaching of the Church. There are no rational magisterial texts to support their view.They assume Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance)  refers to explicitly known cases  in 2013,  who are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.For them this is the teaching of the Catholic Church which is based on an irrationaity i.e visible to us cases saved in invincible ignorance who are exceptions to the dogma.
 
So when someone tells you that being saved  with the baptism of desire  is a teaching of the Church, say,"Yes!-but it is not an exception to the dogma. Since no  Church text says its is an exception and neither do we know of any such case in 2013".
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
1.
On June 29, 2007 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, under the presidency of William Cardinal Levada signed an official document called "Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church". 

 

1 comment:

Anonymous said...


When priests say to me that,the Church erred when she taught 'that there is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church' or asks me " I hope that you do not believe that there is No Salvation outside the Catholic Church, I am compelled to believe that there is but a remmanent of true Catholics.
As far as the strong statements made over the past many decades on correct Church teaching, one must wander if it is the aid of the Holy Ghost speaking through the Popes. There certainly has been no consistency in thought or agenda to remove the 'rot' from the Church. Why?

JMJ,

George Brenner