Boniface at the website Unam Sanctam Catholicam still cannot say Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation in 2013.
It is no surprise that Cardinal Kaspar and the liberal lobby get away in claiming that Vatican Council II is ambigous and a break with the past.
Over 24 hours have passed and there is no comment from this traditionalist. Boniface has removed the original page from it's prominent position on his website and has kept it low key. He will not admirt that the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation has placed Ad Gentes 7. The Catechsim 846 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and all need to enter the Catholic Church as through a door.
All need to enter the Catholic Church as through a door and this would include Protestants who do not have Catholic Faith. They are in mortal sins, of morals and faith (heresy). They have no access to the Sacraments and have a different interpretation of the Gospel.
All need to enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism also includes the non Christians. They have 'superstition, errors and deficiencies' in their religions (Dominus Iesus).
So Vatican Council II affirms the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities and churches.
There are no known exceptions to AG 7 or CCC 846 unless one assumes that the dead saved are physically visible to us and are known exceptions. This is the false premise which Boniface could have been using too.
So he could be confused. Does the Council and the Catechism affirm the traditional position of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX)? Are there really no exceptions mentioned in any magisterial text ? Why has no one mentioned this before if this is the teaching of the Catholic magisterium ? Where are the theologians ? These are some thoughts Boniface may have had over the last 24 hours.
-Lionel Andradeshttp://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.it/
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BONIFACE AT UNAM SANCTAM CATHOLICAM DID NOT KNOW THAT VATICAN COUNCIL II (AG 7)SAYS ALL NEED FAITH AND BAPTISM FOR SALVATION : NO WONDER KASPAR AND THE LIBERALS GET AWAY
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Uh...I affirm what Ad Gentes 7 says. I don't know what your problem is. Faith and the grace of baptism are necessary for salvation.
Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and so you affirm it.
Do you also affirm that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are known, visible to us in the flesh exceptions in 2014 to 'all' needing 'faith and baptism' for salvation ?
If you do, then this would be a contradiction. It would be heresy. It would be the rejection of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and changing the Nicene Creed to 'I believe in three of more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sin'. It would also mean that AG 7 is contradicted by LG 16 (invincible ignorance). Vatican Council II contradicts itself!
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