This is what the SSPX and the St.Benedict Centers must agree on.The baptism of desire and baptism of blood are irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr. Leonard Feeney.

Once the traditionalists get this point out of the way proclamation is simple and clear

In any case, Bptism of Desire/Baptism of blood has absolutely no impact whatsoever on our proclamation of EENS and that's what is important.

Agreed!

This is what the SSPX and the St.Benedict Centers must agree on.The baptism of desire and baptism of blood are irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr. Leonard Feeney.

Once the traditionalists get this point out of the way proclamation is simple and clear

http://eens.forumotion.com/t29p15-so-many-reports-on-the-internet-assume-that-the-baptism-of-desire-is-visible-3

Here is the SSPX assuming that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Why not then believe the dogma "outside the Church there is no salvation" "...with the same sense and the same understanding - in eodem sensu eademque sententia"[3] - as the whole Catholic Church has taught it from the beginning, that is, including the "three baptisms"? Fr. Leonard Feeney and his followers give a new meaning, a new interpretation, to this dogma.

This traditional interpretation of this dogma, including the "three baptisms," is that of St. Cyprian, St. Ambrose, St. Augustine, St. Fulgentius, St. Bernard, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Peter Canisius, St. Alphonsus de Liguori, Pope Innocent II, Pope Innocent III, the Council of Trent, Pope Pius IX, Pope St. Pius X, etc., and unanimously all theologians (prior to the modernists). St. Alphonsus says: "It is de fide [that is, it belongs to the Catholic Faith - Ed.] that there are some men saved also by the baptism of the Spirit."[4]

The traditional interpretation of "Outside the Church there is no salvation," was approved by the Council of Florence (1438-1445). The Council Fathers present made theirs the doctrine of St. Thomas on baptism of desire, saying that for children one ought not to wait 40 or 80 days for their instruction, because for them there was "no other remedy."[5] This expression is taken directly from St. Thomas (Summa Theologica, IIIa, Q.68, A. 3) and it refers explicitly to baptism of desire (ST, IIIa, Q.68, A.2). Despite the fact that the Council of Florence espoused the doctrine of St. Thomas Aquinas, it is astonishing to see Feeneyites opposing this council to St. Thomas!

http://www.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/three_errors_of_feeneyites.htm